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Keto diet & pills on ca probation

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by Jaronson81 Jaronson81 (New) New

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I'm on probation with the California Brn. I just started the keto diet. I want to take a keto pill that contains exogenous ketones to expedite ketosis process. Has anyone on probation in California taken these supplements or been on a keto diet?. I contacted my probation monitor and addictionologist to see if I will have a false positive drug test. They couldn't tell me either way. I will call fssolutions tomorrow to get their opinion too. 

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Ha I would forgo the pills.  False positives are no joke and could have a devastating effect.  I’d rather take longer to lose the weight

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RN1970 specializes in ortho, peds, med/surg, cardiac.

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I have done keto and taken the pills without a problem

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I think the keto diet is probably okay but I would not take ANY diet pills that have not been prescribed and approved.  Just my 2 cents.

 

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dirtyhippiegirl has 8 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in PDN; Burn; Phone triage.

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The problem with ANY supplement is that their manufacturing is not regulated. You do not know what is actually in these pills, if there has been any cross-contamination with other supplements being made at the facility etc.

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Amen hippie girl who really knows what’s in the supplements.  I workout and drink protein powder but honestly I’ve been afraid of that

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Unless theres some new research Im not aware of, exogenous ketones dont speed up ketosis at all. You might be able to dodge keto flu at the very best. Most people in the keto community view exogenous ketones as a waste of money.

But yeah, why risk it? I remember when the old C4 workout formula had basically adderall in it. 

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MunoRN has 10 years experience as a RN and specializes in Critical Care.

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Considering ketones are well established to cause cognitive impairment, I would strongly recommend against a nurse taking something for the sole purpose of causing cognitive impairment.

Ketones are a product of fat metabolism, not something that causes fat metabolism.  They are also an impairing substance and while normal ketone production is considered unavoidable and not subject to disciplinary action, intentionally increasing ketone levels to what should be expected to be levels that result in impairment is something that BONs have considered effectively no different than intentionally ingesting any other impairing substance.  My BON's position on intentional ketosis, for instance, came out of the case of a nurse who habitually failed to reasonably treat their DM1 which resulted in episode of impairment due to ketosis, which they considered to be intentional impairment and they lost their license.   In their review of this particular nurse's case they also pointed out that nurse's who intentionally increase their ketone levels without an offsetting argument of medical benefit (epilepsy) are subject to action against their license.

Keep in mind that the only purpose of a ketogenic diet is to reduce epileptic symptoms.  Any diet that successfully results in metabolism of stored fats will produce ketones, the goal however is to metabolize as much stored fat as possible while also reasonably limiting circulating ketones, since ketones are a toxic byproduct of fat metabolism.  

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adnrnstudent has 5 years experience as a ASN, RN.

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Muno, I’ve read and enjoyed your posts for years but in this instance, I don’t even know where to begin to respond. I am a diabetic, wearing a insulin pump right now, intentionally in ketosis, and have been for a long time like many diabetics.

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Wow I’ve been low carbing for about a year and lost a bunch of weight.  I guess I intentionally increased my ketone level.  It sure never got me high just hungry a lot.  I’d be subject to discipline for going on the Atkins diet?  Talk about overreaching fecal matter

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