Kentucky Board KARE

Okay sorry y'all! I feel like I've posted so many times in here. But I really look to y'all for help. 
so if anyone has read my other posts I enrolled into the KARE program due to issues with a preemployment drug screen involving thc. I ended up with a year of drug screens and a financial penalty. That being said my year has passed and I've been advised to keep checking into affinity. My case manager said that she has sent a recommendation of completion to the Board and it's pending. That I should receive a letter of completion in the mail and possibly by email sometime. However I may get locked out of affinity before that happens but I'm still to abide by my agreed order. 
1. affinity has yet to lock me out and it's been 3 days past my year mark 

2. my agreed order clearly states 12 months 

3. I remember when this all started it took 3 months for my licensure to ever reflect an investigation and a whole year for me ri actually become enrolled in the program and not on my part. My stuff classes, certifications, the review by a drug counselor and letters of recommendation were all done and submitted before the investigation was even completed. 
 

all that being said anyone have an idea of how long it may take to actually be complete and receive the letter? Have a similar experience? 
does her saying she sent a recommendation for completion mean I'm not complete and they could refuse or deny me completion? I didn't know it was a recommendation since my agreed order said 12 months. Or is that just wording? TIA

I found my sentence was over because affinity locked me out before I ever got a letter from the board 

Okay this is going to be lengthy but a little background is needed!!

yes, I was the abnormal addict who was extremely functioning and normal, no one knew until I told my family. I almost have a year clean and NOWWWW I am being reprimanded/monitored for a year SOLEY BASED OFF MY BOSS SEEING AN OLD POSTING AND THINKING IT WAS RECENT. I was immediately terminated "they couldn't trust me anymore but it had nothing to do with my past" LIES! I saw the written complaint. They immediately went to the board without discussing or trying to gain clarity. And if you look at my employment history I didn't work from March 2022 to  Nov of 2022 bc I put myself in multiple treatment programs. So I was not practicing at that time. I also for 3 years hold my DEA AND X WAIVER and did addiction medicine and pain management, and NEVER ONCE did I prescribe illegallly, out of CDC guidelines etc!  Thank goodness!! I'm not an alcoholic and rarely drink and I don't count that as my sobriety, I was a meth addict. And they are telling me I can't have anything with alcohol? Like even beauty products etc!! WOW!?!? My evaluator even said "she's good to go" so to speak. They clearly didn't have much to go on bc during the entire investigation I still had a full and unrestricted license and now I do too. So to be such a "danger" to ppl I think it's pretty damn impressive I was an addict, wrote controlled substances for 3 years, still can, and they found NOTHING OUT OF PLACE IN THAT REGARD and now I have to do this bc of an assumption!! ALSOOOOO let me add, within 19 hours of signing my order on Nursys it said "unable to practice safely due to substance abuse"! I WAS PISSED!!! Guess what they said "OMG I am so sorry, that was put in error" well guess what, it caused me my new job offer, within 24 hours they revoked it, they are going to believe that over me. So safe to say I'm anxiety ridden. Petrified to have something with potential alcohol or poppyseed dressing uhhhh!! Like I'm turning 30 and going on vacation, that's annoying ???ALSO MY ATTORNEY WAS AMAZING IF YOU NEED ONE 

How exactly did you get caught?

Black pantheress said:

How exactly did you get caught?

I'm a domestic violence survivor and a recovery addict, I love sharing my story. It's helped me build good relationships with my addiction patients and when I was working in recovery they really like that, so I shared my journey publicly (bc again, I wasn't practicing during my actual active addiction). But I posted about relapses past and present one night, yes I had been drinking (the first time since my recovery) and I felt guilty about it so it probably wasn't done in the best way LOL, but then I took it down but I saw my boss looked at my profile already, and next thing I knew my work phone was disconnected, my schedule disappeared, and they kept saying "oh wow IDK why" and I can't stand that! Like it's so childish and unprofessional. Sit me down, tell me what's up, let's discuss!! Bc if you asked if I did meth, HELL NO, did I have a few drinks? Yes!! But I owned that in my evaluation, to my attorney, and to my employer (everyone's recovery is different, I never Included alcohol bc I truly do not and haven't ever had an alcohol issue, I don't like the taste enough to LOL! BUTTT ALL IN ALL that's how I got "caught" even though my employer knew I was in recovery and also knew I didn't include alcohol. Her husband got put into the KARE program, well ex husband now so I feel like she already had this twisted perception. ALSO YOU ALL, EMPLOYERS ETHICALLY CANNOT ASK YOU WHAT YOUR CLEAN TIME IS! MINE DID, I lied, I said close to a year, at this time it was roughly 5.5 months. My job had nothing to do with addiction or recovery at this time! I could really fight them on wrongful termination, lying, unethical, etc. but it's not worth it. I'm going to take my reprimand (bc I didn't self report I guess bc I was t practicing then) and keep it pushing!! But I've been unable to find a job since January because of this. FYI 

So did you self report or did your boss report you? I self-reported but looking back that was stupid. I should have just gone to rehab on my own and kept my mouth shut. My problem was from over a decade ago and I'm still writing letters of explanation.

I did not self report. I didn't really know I had to especially considering I was going through an abusive marriage/divorce/EPO so I took a personal and medical leave at work, started coping the wrong way and went into treatment. I literally wasn't practicing for 6 months or longer so it didn't cross my mind honestly. And now I done got reported on some *** that's not even fully accurate or close to what the situation really is. I'm grateful my license is intact and no restrictions, but I would be lying if I said I didn't think about giving it al up. This whole ordeal has completely stole my joy in life and my career. I've been in healthcare since I was 15 it's all I kniw. I truly LOVED the work I did, and now I'm physically and mentally sick everytime I hit the apply button and have to explain this to someone. I have no criminal background, never seen the back of a cop car, nothing past a speeding ticket, graduated top of my class, never had a C. And now look at me! I thought me taking time away was the right thing. Now it's like I am being ridiculed for sharing my story bc I didn't tell them I took 6mos off work. Didn't know I had to tell them I took a leave. OH THEN THEY GAVE ME ANOTHER COMPLAINT PERSONALLY!! BEEN AN NP ALMOST 4 YEARS AND THEY JUST NOW REALIZED I NEVER HAD MY DEA CERTIFICATE WND KASPER CERTFICATE UPLOADED ??onky found it bc they were investigating, but the. Gave me a second complaint, 4 years later. I swear it's all just too much for me right now. My anxiety is at its highest. I barely sleep bc when I do, the last week I've woke up freaking out thinking I overslept past the time to check in on affinity!! I don't wanna live like that man 

Good luck! It's not an easy program and the board is not your friend

WeDoRecover95 said:

Okay this is going to be lengthy but a little background is needed!!

yes, I was the abnormal addict who was extremely functioning and normal, no one knew until I told my family. I almost have a year clean and NOWWWW I am being reprimanded/monitored for a year SOLEY BASED OFF MY BOSS SEEING AN OLD POSTING AND THINKING IT WAS RECENT. I was immediately terminated "they couldn't trust me anymore but it had nothing to do with my past" LIES! I saw the written complaint. They immediately went to the board without discussing or trying to gain clarity. And if you look at my employment history I didn't work from March 2022 to  Nov of 2022 bc I put myself in multiple treatment programs. So I was not practicing at that time. I also for 3 years hold my DEA AND X WAIVER and did addiction medicine and pain management, and NEVER ONCE did I prescribe illegallly, out of CDC guidelines etc!  Thank goodness!! I'm not an alcoholic and rarely drink and I don't count that as my sobriety, I was a meth addict. And they are telling me I can't have anything with alcohol? Like even beauty products etc!! WOW!?!? My evaluator even said "she's good to go" so to speak. They clearly didn't have much to go on bc during the entire investigation I still had a full and unrestricted license and now I do too. So to be such a "danger" to ppl I think it's pretty damn impressive I was an addict, wrote controlled substances for 3 years, still can, and they found NOTHING OUT OF PLACE IN THAT REGARD and now I have to do this bc of an assumption!! ALSOOOOO let me add, within 19 hours of signing my order on Nursys it said "unable to practice safely due to substance abuse"! I WAS PISSED! Guess what they said "OMG I am so sorry, that was put in error" well guess what, it caused me my new job offer, within 24 hours they revoked it, they are going to believe that over me. So safe to say I'm anxiety ridden. Petrified to have something with potential alcohol or poppyseed dressing uhhhh!! Like I'm turning 30 and going on vacation, that's annoying ???ALSO MY ATTORNEY WAS AMAZING IF YOU NEED ONE 

Do not post your frustrations with the Board on here. They monitor this site and will use every negative thing you say against them against YOU! 
 Be careful not to admit to any wrong doing. Let your attorney handle any further complaints or issues that may arise and don't sign ANYTHING until you do so! Good luck

WeDoRecover95 said:

I did not self report. I didn't really know I had to especially considering I was going through an abusive marriage/divorce/EPO so I took a personal and medical leave at work, started coping the wrong way and went into treatment. I literally wasn't practicing for 6 months or longer so it didn't cross my mind honestly. And now I done got reported on some *** that's not even fully accurate or close to what the situation really is. I'm grateful my license is intact and no restrictions, but I would be lying if I said I didn't think about giving it al up. This whole ordeal has completely stole my joy in life and my career. I've been in healthcare since I was 15 it's all I kniw. I truly LOVED the work I did, and now I'm physically and mentally sick everytime I hit the apply button and have to explain this to someone. I have no criminal background, never seen the back of a cop car, nothing past a speeding ticket, graduated top of my class, never had a C. And now look at me! I thought me taking time away was the right thing. Now it's like I am being ridiculed for sharing my story bc I didn't tell them I took 6mos off work. Didn't know I had to tell them I took a leave. OH THEN THEY GAVE ME ANOTHER COMPLAINT PERSONALLY!! BEEN AN NP ALMOST 4 YEARS AND THEY JUST NOW REALIZED I NEVER HAD MY DEA CERTIFICATE WND KASPER CERTFICATE UPLOADED ??onky found it bc they were investigating, but the. Gave me a second complaint, 4 years later. I swear it's all just too much for me right now. My anxiety is at its highest. I barely sleep bc when I do, the last week I've woke up freaking out thinking I overslept past the time to check in on affinity!! I don't wanna live like that man 

I was an RN for 10 years and put in 4 years and 2 months into the KARE program. They popped me with an ETG on an off day and all that time, money and effort spent complying with their strict rules went down the toilet. Best thing to do is never admit to any wrong doing and you'll be fine. Even the Affinity MD they had testify against me was unsure of my test results during cross examination. My counselor, who is more credentialed than all of the board combined, said suspending me was the worst thing they could do to me. They did it anyway. Be careful what you post on here. They monitor it and will use it against you in the absolute worst way. 

Hi all, happy to have found this thread, just started KARE not too long ago. Have had a couple of the O-789373 + O-788890 tests and was wondering the same, they always throw the labcorp tech for a loop bc their system seems to only let them put 1 in a at a time. I think the validity one looks into not only creatinine, but also ph, nitrites, etc.

I wish there was a little more transparency in regards to the tests, I don't want to draw too much attention from my CM asking millions of questions about them but since we're paying for them, it sure would be nice to know exactly what they are. Would love to be able to get the full results instead of just "negative" and "normal" too. I need more reassurance ?

Anyone have experience with hair or blood tests, etc.? Are they just for confirming when a urine is positive/abnormal? Not super excited about how much all this has cost thus far and I bet the blood tests are expensive, hoping I don't have to have too many of them.

karen1634 said:

Hi all, happy to have found this thread, just started KARE not too long ago. Have had a couple of the O-789373 + O-788890 tests and was wondering the same, they always throw the labcorp tech for a loop bc their system seems to only let them put 1 in a at a time. I think the validity one looks into not only creatinine, but also ph, nitrites, etc.

I wish there was a little more transparency in regards to the tests, I don't want to draw too much attention from my CM asking millions of questions about them but since we're paying for them, it sure would be nice to know exactly what they are. Would love to be able to get the full results instead of just "negative" and "normal" too. I need more reassurance ?

Anyone have experience with hair or blood tests, etc.? Are they just for confirming when a urine is positive/abnormal? Not super excited about how much all this has cost thus far and I bet the blood tests are expensive, hoping I don't have to have too many of them.

You got your results? When and how? LOL. I haven't heard a thing from anyone and I did mine Friday morning. I mean I know they are negative but it would be nice to know they got it and got the results and aware I did it.