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Hey all,
Just wondering if anyone here is supposed to attend OBLC this upcoming January (2009). Not 100% at this point whether I will be or not, but figured it wouldn't hurt to start trying to make some contacts. My commissioning package was supposed to meet the board in August but I guess there were some fixes that needed to be made so I was placed on the back burner. Was told that my package is supposed to be before the board today though and should hear back by next week (pretty exited right now). My wife is currently active duty AF Nurse Corps, but is in the final stage of securing an interservice transfer to the Army Nurse Corps and we both hope to attend the January OBLC class.
Hope to hear from some of our future classmates soon.
To clarify what I think is that if that what you need to stress here is that the military is not looking for perfection and that people go in of all abilities, ages and mindsets. Some people will look upon each pt as a challenge a chance to do better than the last while others will just do just to get it done with. Both approaches are ok just as long as the person doing so is ok with the finish product. Encouraging. Them to ,'just doing it, is cool!
I agree with scout 100%. The truth isn't always encouraging or negotiable. If you are attempting to join the military as an officer, branch is immaterial, you are expected to lead and set the example. What is important is a desire and ability to achieve the best, not shoot for the minimum and say "I'm a reservist". Simply meeting the standards is only partially acceptable if your an E-nothing private and not one iota as an officer.
Officers with better pt scores will always be picked before slugs who just shoot for the minimum; especially for anything high speed like airborne, air assault, pathfinder, etc.
Sorry to abruptly change the subject.. sort of... but speaking of training for the APFT.... how do you guys recommend training for the pushups... my goal is to max. I can pass now with ease but I would like to max it out. Do I practice pushup set as fast as possible or do I concentrate on proper form doing pyramid sets? I am non prior service and have never taken the APFT and I am not sure how to approach training effectively to max it.
Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
66HM5
Irishman,
Have you read the whole thread?
These new-to-military DA appointed nurses were voicing their PT goals and plans and the feedback was to take it a bit easy. This is because a 45 year old who jumps in from a non-physical job into the military has to have a period of growth which otherwise could lead to injury. The feedback was don't injure yourself in order to try and get a 'great' score at OBC - as an injury will put you out of the game.
YES I agree leaders need to achieve scores - and not just try. However it is poor judgment to think that a stress fracture is worth getting a 95 on the run vs a 75 - as your body is still adjusting to the rigors of training.
That is what the thread about so.. what is your point? You think the injury is going to make them a better leader? Do you think the otherwise brand new nurse won't get pathfinder? Are you kidding? The real deal is a older new to military....especially medical.. will hinder the military with an injury and themselves... rather then help anyone.
These posters have shown nothing but motivation to achieve and the feedback was 'yes', achieve, but it is not worth a long term injury as you jump into the lifestyle.
Thanks for your input.
I am in agreement bottom line is the person that needs to be comfortable with the results of the py test is the person achieving the results. If they can sleep with themselves at night then leave them be if their damn good nurses taking care of our troops when we need them to be at their top form who cares if they can do 9p percent of their situps as long as they can give their all when it is needed most!
Yes, I have read the entire thread; just because people reserve comment for a long period of time, does not mean they're not watching whats going on. I understand people can struggle with a pt test initially; however I made my statements as a direct response to this:
"Your requirement for the Army is to run 2 miles in less than 23mins 42 secs.....read.... 11 minute miles. http://www.hooah4health.com/4You/apft.htm
Why kill yourself? Believe me, it will NOT advance your career, as a RESERVIST to attempt to run 8:00 miles."
I'm sure this is the same line that got scout's attention. Having been ad and reservist, this kind of attitude is rampant during drills. But when mobilization comes, units wonder why ad looks down on them. Sure, take it slowly at first and build up. But it is deceitful for anyone who knows the real deal to condone a "shoot for the minimum attitude". ANC o's are officers first and condoning a 9% on any aspect of pt test is b.s.
i'm sorry did I say 9% i meant 90..... I was typing my response on a blackberry pearl. I didn't mean any misunderstanding.
Speaking as someone who used to weigh close to 200 pounds and now weighs 125 lbs and used diet modification and running to lose it you don't need to be condescending to me about being mediocre in achieving results. Also, you don't need to be speaking to me about being mediocre about anything that I do, because I really don't need to be where I am in life to begin with, because if I followed in the footsteps of my parentage I'd be lying on my back watching soapoperas all day, eating bon-bons while iyou were supporting my children, while I kept spitting them out one by one. Instead my children who were born by the same father btw , who some to believe has a genetic disease (alcoholism), who after 17 years of marriage I decided I and our children would be better of without the daily influence of I divorced ( I already had my RN) and I went to work full time and sometimes more than off and worked toward my BSN all this during having one of my kids tx'd for leukemia, another nearly killing herself after getting herself a DUI and numerous other misfortunes. When I get to OBC do you really think I will be trying to bet mediocre or the bare minimum results absolutely not and not only that I will be the one that if I see someone struggling I will be the one that will be running out there and will be pacing someone to get that person to go just that little bit faster so that they can get that little bit more.... What about you do you think you can do that? Or is it all about you?
Cursed Irishman,
ack - I agree with that general statement... granted I'd rather these mid-career Civilians to Soldiers get in without injury - better for them and the Army.
That being said Runningmom is of good character... I'm making the strong assumption that her post said 90%...not 9%. Check it out she wrote 9p percent... I think it's a typo
I'm part irish.. and i have my asst of hooah badges... believe me on the professional level I talked crap to everyone and persuaded myself, peers and suborindates to excel at PT. 100% was always the goal.
So their minds are in the right mindset but they need to be told that a OBC score of passing is alright - it won't be a long term factor... it's not worth long term injury for them to be combat ineffective and screw themselves over for long term.. at the same time they should be busting their hump to aim for perfection. So in that regards we are all in agreement.
forwaters
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Don't get me wrong here, my wife and I are still excited about our upcoming assignment to Tripler
... but we just found out we can't bring our parrot
We have a Caique and apparently they are on the "can't bring into the state" list.