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Did you stop it? If abx go into an artery they are going to go into the hand muscles and most likely do some damage. You would have to have a pressure bag with a lot of pressure in order to prevent blood from filling the bag immediately if you actually hit an artery... how far up the tubing did it go? weird.
That happened to me one time, but in my case, the blood went all the way up to the hanging bottle - fast! so there was no question it was an artery.
So I removed it, of course, applied some pressure to prevent hematoma, then started over & found a vein.
QUESTION: I am unclear whether you left that line in: it certainly sounds like an artery (just smaller than the one I got into).
I would imagine the main potential problems would be: bleeding, & the person not getting the medicine ordered iv.
I wonder why we don't learn about that; you are now the 3rd nurse who I have heard of, doing this --- so I think it is not too rare
jrmarr said:Hello, I had something happen today that is bothering me....I was starting an IV on an elderly gentalman....this man had very bad veins and not many choice places left to start an IV due to several infiltrations. Any way I finally found a place one the interior forearm. The thing that bothers me is that once I got the flash and hooked up the tubing I notice that the blood was pulsing up the lines....it was actually pulsing like an artery. What are the chances that I inserted the line into an arterty...I was aiming at blue. After I flushed it it immediately pulsed back into the lines. Secondly what happens if antibiotics are run there if it is in an artery?
I don't think antibiotics can run in if it's in an artery.
For art lines you need to have IV fluids run in with a pressure bag usually set at 300.
I would think that you would know if you hit an artery. . .
ksRgonnabN19 said:Did you stop it? If abx go into an artery they are going to go into the hand muscles and most likely do some damage. You would have to have a pressure bag with a lot of pressure in order to prevent blood from filling the bag immediately if you actually hit an artery... how far up the tubing did it go? weird.
Doesn't it partially depend on the patients blood pressure? ?
jrmarr said:I noticed that the blood was pulsing up the lines....it was actually pulsing like an artery. What are the chances that I inserted the line into an arterty...I was aiming at blue. After I flushed it it immediately pulsed back into the lines. Secondly what happens if antibiotics are run there if it is in an artery?
Ever hear the phrase, "if it walks like a duck ..." That applies here -- if it pulses like an artery ... it's likely an artery. It happens - especially when you're aiming for the basilic vein.
So since you noticed the pulsing ... I'm hoping that you removed the line, obtained other access, and did not administer the abx, right?
Sure it could damage. Think... where did you want that abx to go? You wanted it to circulate via the venous to system circulation. By entering the forearm (if you hit an artery) you send the abx to the hand. The vessels there/tissue/muscle can't take that. That is if the pressure forward was not too strong. I guess as others have said you'd have seen it backflow up your lines.
Just to echo what others said...yes, you were in an artery. Please tell us you took it out immediately and held good pressure and found another site. In all my years of starting IV's, I have only hit an artery once and it scared me to death when I hooked it up and saw what was happening! Too bad he didn't need an arterial line.
Agree with another post...if you are not sure, please ask someone immediately.
jrmarr
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Hello, I had something happen today that is bothering me....I was starting an IV on an elderly gentalman....this man had very bad veins and not many choice places left to start an IV due to several infiltrations. Any way I finally found a place one the interior forearm. The thing that bothers me is that once I got the flash and hooked up the tubing I notice that the blood was pulsing up the lines....it was actually pulsing like an artery. What are the chances that I inserted the line into an arterty...I was aiming at blue. After I flushed it it immediately pulsed back into the lines. Secondly what happens if antibiotics are run there if it is in an artery?