I got pulled over tonight for running a stop sign. I was coming home from Recovery Room call and talking about work on my cell when it happened--mind you this was on a back road with minimal lights so it wasn't hard to do.
I guess it helped that I accepted what I did ("mea culpa") and was preparing to give my DL and registration when he noticed my uniform.
"Never mind." The policeman said. "Just remember me if I'm ever in the hospital..."
He let me go.
I must've done something right in my life to have this "freebie".
i responded to what was said. plain and simple. i said it above, but i'll say it again.
from the post:
he's been excused from at least two speeding tickets each year, based solely on his ccw, in multiple states. when he took his gun training class (which is required to get a ccw in michigan) it was taught by a retired state trooper. the instructor explained to the entire class that if they ever get pulled over, to automatically hand the officer their ccw with their driver license, even if they don't have their weapon with them at the time. not because its a rule for identification or disclosure purposes, but because it's a "get out of the ticket free" card.
>yes, i understand the point you were trying to make. btw - i don't necessarily disagree with that point. however, you went on to say that handing over your ccw premit with your id to a cop was arrogant, threatening, out of context, and showing off. in doing so you cast a negative light on responsible gun owners, i simply deflected that negative light by informing you of the law. you're welcome.
Not too long ago I was crossing the border from Canada and there were 2 officers working the crossing booth. The one takes our passports and DL's and starts running our information and the other came over and questioned us. Then he goes back and starts to search our trunk. Meanwhile, the guy in the booth leans over and says "oh which one of you is the RN?" I say it's me...He asks where I work, what dept, etc. Then to the other officer he says, "They're good, let them through" So the other guy just stops dead, snaps the trunk closed and lets us through!
It was weird b/c does that mean when cops run our info they can see we are registered within the state to practice and then already know we're nurses? Or maybe just because this was border patrol? and also it was funny because I guess we nurses are incapable of smuggling drugs or weapons lol not that I didn't appreciate the gesture.
>I was driving home from MI (pre 9-11) and was stoppped and diverted for a random search at the border, the following conversation ensued; Border Patrol: Are you a US citizen? Me: Yes. Border Patrol: Where are you going? Me: Home, Hillsdale NY Border Patrol: Where are you coming from and how long was your stay in Canada? Me: Grand Rapids MI, the few hours it took me to drive across from Detroit. Border Patrol: Whats your occupation? Me: I'm a Respiratory Therapist. Border Patrol: What arises at the bifurcation of the trachea? Me: The carina. Border Patrol: Let him go, he's good! Me: Holy. F r i g g i n. Crap.
>Yes, I understand the point you were trying to make. BTW - I don't necessarily disagree with that point. However, you went on to say that handing over your CCW premit with your ID to a cop was arrogant, threatening, out of context, and showing off. In doing so you cast a negative light on responsible gun owners, I simply deflected that negative light by informing you of the law. You're welcome.
The negative light was shed by the post that specifically stated that handing it over had nothing to do with the rules.
I didn't thank you.
If I'm "casting a negative light" on gun owners, that's fine; I'm not making anyone agree with me. They can form their own opinion about it, they're more than welcome.
-Most departments allow officers to cite at their own discretion. So the field is wide open. My mindset was: I've already interrupted your day, scared you, embarrassed you, determined you don't have any warrants, informed you that you were speeding...why tack on another 100+ dollars?
-Yep, there are turd cops out there just like turd nurses, accountants, doctors, lawyers, etc. I'm sorry if you've run into one. They're not all bad.
-CCW does not equal gun-in-car. It also doesn't equal upstanding citizen. I only stopped one CCW and he handed it over with his license. It was 2am and he ran a stop sign. I let him go because he was sober at 2am on a Friday night, not because of his CCW.
-Yep, driving while talking, texting, eating, CD searching, daydreaming is dangerous. We've all done it. Try to do it less.
One of the reasons I'm in nursing school is because there is rarely anything black and white about our justice system and I couldn't handle the cognitive dissonance.
JOPACU: I love your posts so I'll let you go with a warning....
Specializes in Emergency Dept. Trauma. Pediatrics.
Former cop here, so I thought I'd weigh in.
-Most departments allow officers to cite at their own discretion. So the field is wide open. My mindset was: I've already interrupted your day, scared you, embarrassed you, determined you don't have any warrants, informed you that you were speeding...why tack on another 100+ dollars?
-Yep, there are turd cops out there just like turd nurses, accountants, doctors, lawyers, etc. I'm sorry if you've run into one. They're not all bad.
-CCW does not equal gun-in-car. It also doesn't equal upstanding citizen. I only stopped one CCW and he handed it over with his license. It was 2am and he ran a stop sign. I let him go because he was sober at 2am on a Friday night, not because of his CCW.
-Yep, driving while talking, texting, eating, CD searching, daydreaming is dangerous. We've all done it. Try to do it less.
One of the reasons I'm in nursing school is because there is rarely anything black and white about our justice system and I couldn't handle the cognitive dissonance.
JOPACU: I love your posts so I'll let you go with a warning....
As a former cop, thank you for addressing that, I was trying really hard to bite my tongue on the comments about thugs and how having CCW meant you were a good upstanding person.
Oops that probably reads wrong. As YOU being a former cop. It might read like I was one to. lol
Man, what are you all doing to be pulled over so often? I have been pulled over once in 17 years of driving, for answering my cell phone. I said "Sorry, but I'm on call, so if it rings again, I'm gonna answer it again". They told me to pull over before answering next time.
The negative light was shed by the post that specifically stated that handing it over had nothing to do with the rules.
Moreso by your description using the terms "arrogant" "threat" and "bully to you".
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I didn't thank you.
I was being humorously sarcastic
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If I'm "casting a negative light" on gun owners, that's fine; I'm not making anyone agree with me. They can form their own opinion about it, they're more than welcome.
Do you feel the same about the public perception of nurses?
moreso by your description using the terms "arrogant" "threat" and "bully to you".
that was my honest impression/interpretation of the situation as it was presented.
>i was being humorously sarcastic
i know, so was i.
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do you feel the same about the public perception of nurses?
my statements above about that one instructor telling people to hand their ccw's over in order to get out of a free ticket don't reflect my opinion on gun owners as a whole. i gave my impression on how i think that action appears. i also don't believe for a second that all licensed gun owners are fine, upstanding citizens, but that's neither here nor there. as far as the public perception of nurses goes, yes, there's the naughty nurse, the angels of mercy, and the butt-wiping stereotypes, but for years, nurses have also been top-rated as the most trusted professionals, so pick your poison. some things just are what they are. all i can do is, in my day to day interaction with patients, show them what nurses really do. i got some amazing feedback from patients yesterday when i floated to another floor, from "i like you. you talk to me" to another man telling me he was getting choked up when i told him i was going home for the night, he liked me that much (and i didn't feel like i went out of my way or anything i'd usually do for someone). that to me is what matters the most, the perception that people take away from me (and by that i mean, irl, functioning as a nurse, not on a forum where people might think they know, but really have no idea....).
Specializes in Nurse Leader specializing in Labor & Delivery.
One of the reasons I'm in nursing school is because there is rarely anything black and white about our justice system and I couldn't handle the cognitive dissonance.
Yeah, I've learned that already in nursing school. At least this career switch seems to fit my personality more. Hopefully I can use my previously acquired BS filters with some success.
Specializes in Emergency Dept. Trauma. Pediatrics.
Good luck with that in nursing! LOL[/quot
Yeah, I've learned that already in nursing school. At least this career switch seems to fit my personality more. Hopefully I can use my previously acquired BS filters with some success.
Yeah nothing black in white in nursing lol many many many shades of gray though! it's good though that you seem to be liking it more though, everyone should have a job they enjoy. I know it's not always possible, but it's a plus if you can. Or one they MOSTLY enjoy since every job has their downfalls.
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>yes, i understand the point you were trying to make. btw - i don't necessarily disagree with that point. however, you went on to say that handing over your ccw premit with your id to a cop was arrogant, threatening, out of context, and showing off. in doing so you cast a negative light on responsible gun owners, i simply deflected that negative light by informing you of the law. you're welcome.