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Is my safety compromised?

First time poster here! A couple of months back I completed my CNA certification and was excited to jump right into the medical field! I was hired to work in a memory care facility in Idaho with about 15 residents ( 9 of which are bed changes rest are able to stand and be changed) with moderate to severe alzeihmers and dementia. I usually work graves which means you work by your self with no assistance and no other cna's. I have not had a problem with it until recently, a particular resident which is a two person assist stopped being able to walk. This particular resident also has a bad attitude,VERY UNSTEADY and aggressive. My facility offers no hoyers or any fancy stuff like that, how do I go about toileting them? I have had the roughest time doing so and it usually ends on me almost hurting myself and her soaked.

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Unless you can find another trained staff to help you (RN/LPN/CNA) you by no means should transfer that resident. Unfortunately that resident is limited to a bed pan otherwise.

That's an unsafe situation in which you are compromising your own safety as well as the resident's safety by transferring her by yourself.

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Thank you for the reply! Yes it's very hard to find another CNA since there not another person in the building! I ended up having to call people from a different building to help me toilet waited about half an hour. Turns out we needed three CNA's to help me toilet her tonight. The whole process took about 30 minutes with three of us. My facility should really invest in another CNA in my building!!

Yes, your safety is comprised. DO NOT attempt to transfer 2+ -assists by yourself. You can't risk a lifetime of pain over something avoidable. They need to use a bedpan, or the facility must staff appropriately.

Sounds like that resident is no longer suitable for that level of care and needs to be moved.

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I am willing to bet dollars to donuts that, should that resident have a fall-- or is injured in any way, while you are attempting to transfer them yourself, The Big Shots at that facility will throw you under the bus. I'm guessing this is an assisted living facility? No hoyers or other staff? Sounds like the level of care is not one conducive to the care of this resident. Either The Big Shots are not aware this resident isn't a fit anymore, or are blatantly turning a blind eye because, ka-ching, a filled bed (even an inappropriately filled one) is $$$$$$.

Protect yourself. Do not transfer this resident alone! And this place doesn't just need "another CNA"... they need to have this resident in an appropriate level of care with the appropriate equipment. If you needed 3 aides, then this resident likely needs some type of lift. You also mentioned that this resident "stopped being able to walk". Has this been reported? It needs to be reported and a change in the plan of care (and the level of care) needs to be made. If They know and don't care, find a better place to work, if at all possible.

This resident shouldn't be toileted, period. It's not safe. Bedpan it is unless you can get your hands on a hoyer.

Leave that resident till last then call for the extra CNA, How do other staff deal with the particular resident? and document document document

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The other shifts have 2 CNA's available at all times in the building but I am left alone for my graveyard shifts.

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This thread makes me so mad!

I'm just angered by these facilities. I'm sure it probably markets itself with photographs of charming, smiling, high-functioning elderly people being hugged by their charming, smiling, completely satisfied daughters. They probably boast about how each and every resident is unique with a story and how they strive to take that into consideration to provide the best gosh-darn care ever!!!

But they don't. They don't care what anybody's story is or what their unique needs are. They only care about filling the beds. Safety and care be damned.

So now you have Cmtz108 coming in there, green as peas, trying to figure out what the hell she is supposed to do. She is so new that it probably didn't strike her as funny that she was responsible for 15 moderate to severe dementia patients alone. Anybody who know their dementia patients knows that this is asking for trouble. Toileting issues aside, but what about the behavioral issues that bound to happen sooner or later? Where's Cmtz108's help then?

Cmtz108, I'm very curious... have you reported your concerns? What do you plan to do?

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Well not to mention there already is many behavior problems. They constantly swing at me, punch or kick me. Not to mention the are constantly being aggressive to each other (clawing, taking swings, trying to stab with forks, etc.) during the day, thank goodnesss I haven't witnessed it happening at night. I have tried explaining to management and they tell me they will see what they can do, then as I expected they do nothing.

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Well not to mention there already is many behavior problems. They constantly swing at me, punch or kick me. Not to mention the are constantly being aggressive to each other (clawing, taking swings, trying to stab with forks, etc.) during the day, thank goodnesss I haven't witnessed it happening at night. I have tried explaining to management and they tell me they will see what they can do, then as I expected they do nothing.

Holy cow.

You do not need to be working alone with those types of behaviors. Every time someone tries to strike out at you, report it. Get it in writing. Keep track of your reports and to whom you reported. If the residents actually strike you, demand to get checked out. Yesterday, I got kicked hard and another nurse had his arm twisted. We made reports and went to ER. If you get an injury (even if it seems like "nothing" now) that turns out to be something, you won't be covered by work comp if you don't follow through with this.

What's going to happen if, while working alone, a resident gets a hold of you and hurts you? You'll see how much this facility cares then... they'll blow you off just as much as they are now.

Leave now, if you can. That is bogus.

I wouldn't work there without a second person. Even a secretary or maintenance person would do, someone within yelling distance that could summon more help. Big fat nope. Send an email with your concerns, so there's a record you told the boss of the risk. While you look for another job, keep your cellphone in your pocket at all times. Its not just injuries and getting into a situation you can't handle alone. it's also verbal accusations from demented folks, or the chance of physical violence. Say you come across someone down on the floor...do you run for help, or stay with the patient? While you are dealing with that, what happens to the other 14 people that are bound to wake in the commotion? I just don't see it being manageable, and I worked ER as the only RN in a small hospital BUT I always had a secretary who could call the floor or EMTs prn.

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