Is it really easier for male new grad nurses to land a job?

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Im a newgrad RN and just got my license but still looking for work. Most of my male classmates had found jobs already. So is it true that male new grads get a job faster than females?

Specializes in Critical Care, Education.

Any organization that pays a higher wage based solely on gender is in violation of Federal law -- so I doubt whether the PP's claim is accurate. If PP believes that it is accurate, this should be reported immediately. It is usually very easy to prove, unlike claims of discrimination based on other factors.

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Any organization that pays a higher wage based solely on gender is in violation of Federal law -- so I doubt whether the PP's claim is accurate. If PP believes that it is accurate this should be reported immediately. It is usually very easy to prove, unlike claims of discrimination based on other factors.[/quote']

How is it easy to prove? All they have to do is say "oh well they were paid more bc of x y or z" I think it would actually be very difficult to prove that it is solely bc of their gender. But it sure looks that way to rest of us who can't pick out any distinct differences.

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If every new male nurse was started at a higher rate than any female then that is easy to prove.

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So, I got my license a few weeks ago. saw a posting for a facility willing to accept new grad. downloaded their app form then dropped it off that place. Got a call next day for an interview. Went to the interview and I think it went well. I'll know next week if I got the job.

If I get that job then I guess its pure luck that I got accepted on my first application after being an RN.

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So, I got my license a few weeks ago. saw a posting for a facility willing to accept new grad. downloaded their app form then dropped it off that place. Got a call next day for an interview. Went to the interview and I think it went well. I'll know next week if I got the job.

If I get that job then I guess its pure luck that I got accepted on my first application after being an RN.

Congratulations! Hopefully, you get the job! :up:

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Male Nurses Make More Money - Real Time Economics - WSJ Not a joke...discussed this numerous times in professionalism class. Sadly, this is the case with all professionns. And here's an article from the wall street journal discussing the matter

This is absurd because it ONLY looks at annual income...

The difference in earnings is partly due to the fact that men were more likely than women to work full-time. When looking only at full-time, year-round workers, the gap narrows, but it doesn't disappear; female nurses working full-time, year-round earned 9% less than their male counterparts.

There are a variety of factors not mentioned but the obvious one is...

OT... In my department, the four top earners are all male... why are we the top earners? Because we're the ones who work the most overtime... One guy does it because he's single and older, one because he's single and younger, and saving to buy a house, one because his wife is a stay-at-home mom, and me because my wife's income is fixed.

One could easily conclude, then, that we have a glass ceiling and that the men are paid more but the reality is that we're all hourly employees paid by contract that considers only years of service.

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♪♫ in my ♥ do you really think that the Census Bureau is so stupid and would compare apples with oranges? They are not counting overtime in this study, they are just looking at full time employment between men and women. So they take X amount of hours (whatever they consider full time) and then compare how much men made a year and how much women made a year with the same amount of hours. The study actually also gives a reasonable explanation why men make more than women; such as men climb up the corporate ladder quicker or men are more likely to go into the higher-paying jobs, like nurse anesthetists. Anyway, men don't make more money because they work more overtime.

RN_na_pogi_pa I wish you good luck and hope you will get the job. Where do you live RN_na_pogi_pa?

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Specializes in Critical Care, Float Pool Nursing.

Men tend to aim for higher paying jobs and higher paying specialties, like nurse anesthetists. Women aim for jobs that offer scheduling flexibility to take care of kids and such. Also, women who get pregnant and take maternity leave have their performance review date pushed back for as long as they are out of work, so they get their raise after someone who would not need to take such kinds of leave. These reasons and others contribute to men earning more money than women in most fields.

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Specializes in ED, Telemetry,Hospice, ICU, Supervisor.

My unit has a lot of male RNs in fact about 3/4 of the PM and Night shift staff are males. Based on some surveys the hospital did regrading unit satisfaction, they consistently rank in the top. Maybe it has something to do with having a mostly male team. Maybe it does not.

I would like to point out the past 5 hires in the last year were all males. I would like to say that my old manager liked to hire males because we complained less, this I heard from his mouth directly. It also seems like other departments are more actively looking for more male hires. Now I am not saying this is policy, but I have noticed a pattern of hiring. Yes I was one of these new hires.

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There are many layers to what's being discussed here. It's not just one factor or simply comparing full-time females to males.

Not always, but men tend to go where the money is. This is evident in the fact that you see very few male nurses working in outpatient settings compared to inpatient.

Yes I've seen it, but it's by far the exception to see a man who works PRN or part-time because his income is considered supplemental while his female spouse works as the full-time breadwinner.

And yes, this is probably because men are still expected to be the breadwinner and women are still expected to compromise their careers to tend to child responsibilities.

However, this behavior carries on long after the kids are out of the house. I've worked with many women in the 45 plus club who are still part-time or PRN with no kids at home and they are not in school while their spouses are still the full-time breadwinner.

But 45 or older men who are PRN or part-time?

I've never seen it unless he has other jobs or school.

But getting back to the original topic, yes it is discriminatory to hire men over women.

But anyone who thinks that laws truely protect certain groups is living in a fantasy world.

I know many female nurse managers who prefer to hire men over women if all other qualifications are equal. I know many female nurses who want to see more men hired into their units.

I've heard many complaints from female nurses that women are too gossipy, catty, etc. etc. and that they prefer to work with men instead of other women.

My personal opinion is that this might be true to some degree but I've worked in male dominated environments where this behavior had existed with men as well, but I do think it's less dramatic and prevalent.

To the OP, my experience and opinion is that yes it's true to an extent.

Everyone has personal and family situations to tend to from time to time, but nurse managers are looking for people who aren't going to be "the one" who "always" is expected to go get the kids from school/daycare and needs to leave or miss work because of sick kids or aging parents.

I know one couple who are both nurses who actually do share taking turns calling in when kids are sick and share school and daycare issues.

But all of the other female nurses I work with that are not single parents, are always the one who need to miss work while their male spouses somehow "can't" ever miss work and be there for the kids.

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♪♫ in my ♥ do you really think that the Census Bureau is so stupid and would compare apples with oranges? They are not counting overtime in this study, they are just looking at full time employment between men and women. So they take X amount of hours (whatever they consider full time) and then compare how much men made a year and how much women made a year with the same amount of hours. The study actually also gives a reasonable explanation why men make more than women; such as men climb up the corporate ladder quicker or men are more likely to go into the higher-paying jobs, like nurse anesthetists. Anyway, men don't make more money because they work more overtime.
Really? I didn't see that in the WSJ article... must've missed it.

I've been hearing this talk for the last 30 years but never observed it firsthand through several companies and industries.

And honestly, I just don't buy it because I can't envision how it would come to pass, especially in a commodity field like nursing.

If I ever have the opportunity to see details on the collection of the data rather than these nonspecific statements like those found in the WSJ article, I'll reconsider.

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It says full time employee , which is usually between 35-40 hours a week, no more nor less. The only thing that you could argue about is that some employer consider 36 hour a week full time and others consider 40 hours a week full time. Or you could argue that they chose more men with more experience than women and that is the reason why men make more money. But even these things are irrelevant if you test a large sample because you will get a variety of all.

However, the hours a person ( men or women) has to work per week has to be the same (+/- 3 hours) otherwise the whole study would be completely irrelevant (comparing apples with oranges). Why would the census bureau do such a irrelevant study? Not even somebody who has never taken a statistics course would make such a mistake.

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