Is this a notice of resignation or not !

[time4meRN]

have a friend who after causing some havoc along her employment path. decided to leave her positon as a pca. ( thank goodness, because life was becoming miserable at work when she was there). any way, she resigned by calling the managers office, the manager was out of town. the policy is that written notice be given 2 week prior for pca, 4 weeks for rn. the manager had about had it up to her ears with this pca, she always had somthing to complain about . the manager told her her resignation is from the day she got written notice, not when she left a message on her voice mail. well, the pca called hr. all kinds of things happened after this. there are 7 assistant nurse managers she could have given a written notice to at any time. she didn't have to give it to the big wig. she knew that. i think she was unhappy about her job and was trying to screw people over on her way out. but, that came back to haunt her, i think she is probably a no -re hire now. not a good idea to burn bridges at one of the largest employer in our city.

[RN1989]

Why are you worried about it? Does it affect your work? If not, this isn't something you should be spending time worrying about.

[hpcat]

When it comes to HR issues, most employers like to stick to the letter of their policies - too much liability otherwise. She probably should have given written notice to someone, I'm sure there was someone who was handling things in her manager's absence.

I've known people who burned their bridges and actually seen it bite them in their butts. One girl quit just before she could be fired, after being on the phone all day, excessive absences and not doing much for anyone. She went to work for another company as a sales rep and guess what - she was sent to our office trying to sell her company's services to us! Embarrassing... :uhoh21:

[time4meRN]

because she's my freind of 22 years that i worked hard at her request to get her into the er. now i guess i feel she should have left on a good note out of respect for me, not leave a trail of havoc. it's a point of contension between us. i feel she owes the department at least a "thank you for the experience", not screw you guys type attitude. i feel she should have followed policy , been more grasious--- for her own good if anything. it has affected me at work and at home.

[hpcat]

because she's my freind of 22 years that i worked hard at her request to get her into the er. now i guess i feel she should have left on a good note out of respect for me, not leave a trail of havoc. it's a point of contension between us. i feel she owes the department at least a "thank you for the experience", not screw you guys type attitude. i feel she should have followed policy , been more grasious--- for her own good if anything. it has affected me at work and at home.

i think you should let her know how much this affected you, if you don't think you can do it in person a note would be good. it's not going to change anything that happened, but at least you can get it off your chest. maybe she will apologize and try to set things right between you. if not, then it clearly shows a flaw in her character that you needed to know about.

please don't let this bad experience sour helping other people in the future. i know most people would appreciate the assistance.

[Wendy_RN]

This is a reflection on your friend, not you. I understand you feeling like you went out on a limb for her, but we never know how someone is going to be as an employee. They can be a great friend, but a nightmare to work with. The way she handled the situation was unprofessional, but again that reflects on her. Don't let her bring you down.

[elkpark]

As to the original question, "is this a notice of resignation or not?," if the facility's policy defines resignation as written notice of resignation, then, no, she didn't resign. Unless she went back and did it the "right" way after her manager spoke to her, the facility would be justified in telling future potential employers that she resigned without notice, and I think it's safe to assume that they have flagged her personnel file as being ineligible for rehire.

And, as others have noted, it's never a good idea to burn bridge you don't have to -- you never know when that's going to come back to haunt you.

I would never consider using anything but a written resignation (usually hand-delivered to the appropriate person, so, really, written plus verbal notification), regardless of what a particular facility policy says. It's just the professional way to do things.

[time4meRN]

Wow, thanks, I think your right. I realized I wrote the thread out of anger after I read your post. Your right, sometimes I guess it takes a swift kick in the rear to realize what the right thing to do is. You made my day. Thanks again for your caring words.. Sometimes that's all we need. :heartbeat

[pagandeva2000, LPN]

I understand how you feel, even if this were not a personal friend of yours. Sometimes, we see people do bizarre things and we just have to speak about it. And, of course, this affects you, because if you wanted to recommend someone else that is more deserving and more responsible, you have to worry about your personal intergrity on the line.

I had a similar experience with a friend of mine. I helped her through school, she attended the same school I went to, so, I helped her along the way, giving her all of the advice that I could to make her a success. We work at the same job, and some of the actions I witnessed made me want to crawl in a hole. We worked at the same place before as aides, so, it was not like she got anywhere because of me (in fact, she worked there before me). But, I recommended her to work with me on a side gig (before I saw her horrendous work ethics/habits), and my goodness, I was so embarassed! At least I had the forsight to warn my boss that she may not be the person she wanted, but she needed another LPN at the last minute, and decided to take the chance. As far as I was concerned, it was now on her and not me, since she was specifically warned. My boss has not said anything to me since that incident, but I know that she has a low opinion of this woman, now. Like you, I see that this will eventually be uncomfortable for the both of us if she hears that I am still with this other job and she has not been called back. You have my empathy. What I would do is tell the powers that be that you are sorry; you had no idea she would conduct herself this way. Too bad, though...you would now feel uncomfortable referring anyone else.