Ok so is it out of the scope of an RN,nursing students to give advice to people about their health issues.Recently I detected a high blood pressure in one of my friends like 140/90,his father has hypertension so I guess the genetics play the role,also he has another risk factor since he is a male.I advised him to stop eating salty foods (he works many hours and eats convienience food like pizza,hamburgers,pork),low-fat meats (chicken breast and rice),and also to continue exercise.I'm not playing doctor,I"m just trying to put the theory into practice .Am I breaking law or am practicing outside the scope,what do you think.This is the first time I gave health advise,it felt definitely good and he was very thankful and took my advise to his heart I think,but then again I want to know if this is according to law?
What are you talking about? If you want to be informative,check your sources,actually it diagnosed by two random blood pressure checks not over time:banghead: And I dont think it worthless to check someone blood pressure,advices like your are definitely worthless though.
actually, if you read his post correctly, he was saying that one high blood pressure is worthless to diagnose HTN. usually physicians will have you keep a diary @ home and tell you to check your BP each day and compare it to how it is when you are in the office (again what redcell said--BP higher infront of others, esp doctors, aka white coat syndrome)... then they make the definitive dx of HTN and treat accordingly.
What are you talking about? If you want to be informative,check your sources,actually it diagnosed by two random blood pressure checks not over time:banghead: And I dont think it worthless to check someone blood pressure,advices like your are definitely worthless though.
Do you know that poster has a MSN and is a CRNA?!? I would think he knows just a wee bit more than you about BPs.
The closest person to adult size I have here in my house right now is my almost 13 yr old son. I decided over the summer before I started NS I wanted to try to practice and learn a few skills (taking BP, Dosage and Calculations and so on) when I first decided I wanted to be a nurse I got a tad excited and ordered up Stethoscopes and BP kit and stuff. LOL so anyway I figured i would practice on my son since my husband is out of town and his BP was pretty dang high, he had a physical in August for Football and was fine. I chalked it up to me needing a lot more practice
I am going to spend a few weeks this summer in San Diego and have my mom who is a Cert. Medical Assitant show me and help me practice more.
Just to verify,I always double check my manual with electronic machine,so both were showing high results,anyway like I said he has a lot of risk factors,his dad was diagnosed with hypertension and he is a male.
In my experience the best advice for possible hypertension is: absolutely, under any circumstance, do not feed the patient. Feeding the patient will only escalate the situation until all their thready arteries are closed.
So with all his degrees he forgot that all it takes is two random times to diagnose the hypertension.
Strange...or maybe scary....
Actually, he is correct. And suddenly now you've got an attitude that you are an expert??? You hammer in another post that your friend has risk factors for HTN and that you double checked your findings with an electronic machine. Sounds like you are trying to medically diagnose which IS outside the scope of practice for a nurse. Before you get the 'holier than thou' attitude going, get some experience as a nurse under your belt. You are just in the beginnig stages of learning, hopefully as time goes by you'll actually become a strong nurse and clinician. I'd just watch with the attitude, it's not going to benefit you nor your future patients.
Actually, he is correct. And suddenly now you've got an attitude that you are an expert??? You hammer in another post that your friend has risk factors for HTN and that you double checked your findings with an electronic machine. Sounds like you are trying to medically diagnose which IS outside the scope of practice for a nurse. Before you get the 'holier than thou' attitude going, get some experience as a nurse under your belt. You are just in the beginnig stages of learning, hopefully as time goes by you'll actually become a strong nurse and clinician. I'd just watch with the attitude, it's not going to benefit you nor your future patients.
The only attitude that I sense is the one coming from RedCell,I didnt ask if it was worthless to take BP,I ask was it dangerous to offer some health advice,dont you see the difference?
The only attitude that I sense is the one coming from RedCell,I didnt ask if it was worthless to take BP,I ask was it dangerous to offer some health advice,dont you see the difference?
OK, to clarify:
It is dangerous to offer advice based on one B/P reading, which is worthless in making the diagnosis of HTN, which no one other than an APRN or physician is legally qualified to make.
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actually, if you read his post correctly, he was saying that one high blood pressure is worthless to diagnose HTN. usually physicians will have you keep a diary @ home and tell you to check your BP each day and compare it to how it is when you are in the office (again what redcell said--BP higher infront of others, esp doctors, aka white coat syndrome)... then they make the definitive dx of HTN and treat accordingly.