Published Dec 4, 2002
Pretzlgl
188 Posts
Just wondering how everyone gives insulin. Do you use an insulin syringe? I feel silly asking this question....I was taught in nursing school to ONLY give insulin with a specific syringe demarcating the units to be given. (And to have it double checked). Yesterday at work a doctor said to give 8 units of reg. insulin - and don't waste time getting an insulin syringe. Please enlighten me if there is another SAFE way to properly dose insulin. I am unaware. Thanks all.
OzNurse69
245 Posts
I always use an insulin syringe with units marked on it rather than mls....much more difficult to make a mistake. Sounds like this Dr was in a big hurry, which increases the chances of a med error - & if you had to get a syringe to give the pt their insulin, & the insulin syringes are right next to the 1ml syringes (as they are in every place I have ever worked), please have him tell me how it would save time not using an insulin syringe??
Shevalove
69 Posts
We only use insulin syringes too. I was taught in school to have all insulin double checked with another nurse, but I am THE ONLY NURSE .... So I just check and double check myself.
emily_mom
1,024 Posts
We only use syringes. His rushed attitude creates errors, in which you would be responsible.
CMERN
150 Posts
Use Insulin Syringe......Id rather waste time than WASTE a life...DOC
Audreyfay
754 Posts
Holy Cats! Of all the crazy things!
Let's think about this. If you were to give 8 units, we all use U100 insulin (100 units/cc). That means you would have to try to measure out 8/100 of a cc. Show me a syringe that can measure that???? Even if one used a TB syringe, perhaps one could "somewhat" safely measure that. However, a TB syringe uses a 25 gauge needle. And insulin syringe is usually a 29 gauge needle. Which one would you rather get?
I hope you discussed this with your nurse manager also? That MD needs to know the error he could be instigating. What did you do?
Thanks all - I am going to speak with my NM tomorrow. This was by no means any emergent situation that couldn't have waited 30 seconds to get the right syringe. Sometimes doctors just p**s me off!
JonRN
157 Posts
I woulda handed him the syringe and the insulin and said here, you give it, or allow me enough time to get a proper syringe. Then, if he chose to draw it up and give it, I would have documented it on the pt's chart.
renerian, BSN, RN
5,693 Posts
Never heard or was taught to do it any other way........
renerian
sharann, BSN, RN
1,758 Posts
Originally posted by JonRN I woulda handed him the syringe and the insulin and said here, you give it, or allow me enough time to get a proper syringe. Then, if he chose to draw it up and give it, I would have documented it on the pt's chart.
Exactly!
canoehead, BSN, RN
6,901 Posts
I don't get it. With a 1cc syringe marked off in 1/100ths of a mL and a U-100 insulin...you should be able to give insulin with that syringe. I remember learning insulin injection when we had U-40 insulins, and then it was the conversion to mLs that caused all the mistakes. Now we don't need to convert so what is the source of the errors?
RN2B2005
In veterinary practise, we almost always used a 1 cc syringe when giving U-100 insulin injections in-house (diabetes is remarkably common in cats). I think it's because the needles were longer than those on the insulin syringes,
making it easier to deliver the insulin IM rather than SQ. Not sure, though, and when owners gave at-home insulin, we always instructed them using insulin syringes.
Haven't been taught yet how to give insulin to humans, but I'd have to go with everyone else on this one--give the insulin using the insulin syringe, to CYA.