Informed employer I was going to NYC to help with COVID crisis and was threatened to be reported for pt abandonment

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Wuzzie

5,116 Posts

1 hour ago, NRSKarenRN said:

RT are swapped responding to codes and setting up new vents. Not all hospitals have RT on 24/7 either.

Yeah, I get that but I don’t think second line to manage critical vents in the manner that poster described is going to be home health nurses. It’s an entirely different animal.

apmarquez

70 Posts

Here's an article I found that constitutes pt abandonment. It seems a lot of the posters are misinformed about what is pt abandonment. Hope it helps.

https://nurseguidance.com/abandonment-what-it-is-and-is-not/?amp

https://www.ndbon.org/RegulationsPractice/PracticeStatements/Abandonment.asp

allnurses Guide

herring_RN, ASN, BSN

3,651 Posts

Specializes in Critical care, tele, Medical-Surgical.

From the California Board of Registered Nursing:

ABANDONMENT OF PATIENTS

Inquiries have been received by the Board of Registered Nursing (BRN) regarding which actions by a nurse constitute patient abandonment and thus may lead to discipline against a nurse's license.

Generally for patient abandonment to occur, the nurse must:

a) Have first accepted the patient assignment, thus establishing a nurse-patient relationship, and then

b) Severed that nurse-patient relationship without giving reasonable notice to the appropriate person (e.g., supervisor, patient) so that arrangements can be made for continuation of nursing care by others.

A nurse-patient relationship generally begins when responsibility for nursing care of a patient is accepted by the nurse. Failure to notify the employing agency that the nurse will not appear to work an assigned shift is not considered patient abandonment by the BRN, nor is refusal to accept an assignment considered patient abandonment. Once the nurse has accepted responsibility for nursing care of a patient, severing of the nursepatient relationship without reasonable notice may lead to discipline of a nurse's license...

https://www.RN.ca.gov/pdfs/regulations/npr-b-01.pdf

db2xs

733 Posts

The OP has not responded to anyone's comments. I feel curious if they plan to.

Lala131

3 Posts

Specializes in Telemetry, ICU, Neuro.

Always give two weeks notice (if you're Union, I think most contracts say 30 days, but I've had no problem with two weeks, for any job, it's just standard, this is not legal advice, of course)

if you don't want to actually work those two weeks, call off, if you have sick time they have to give it to you

if they ask you what's wrong just repeat, "I'm sick"....it's not their business what you're sick with. (I had a supervisor that would do this to nurses when they called off sick, wanting to know what exactly was wrong, nope, I'm sick, that's all ya get).

patient abandonment is literally being on the clock and refusing care (for no good reason) or just leaving in the middle of a shift without telling anyone, or walking home once your patient codes, once again without telling anyone you're leaving! We actually do have protections, don't let them scare you

Also, this is still America, you can quit a job at your will (I wouldn't do it in the middle of a shift especially if there no one to take care of your patients, but once you clock out, even if you're suppose to be back in the morning, it's fine to say hey, I quit, not coming back

and you can use that job as a reference, they're only allowed to confirm dates of employment (probably pay rate and duties, I believe)...but they are legally not allowed to trash talk you (now if HR people at different hospitals, etc know each other, and they often do, the truth may come out, but they legally can't use that against you)

Specializes in Perioperative / RN Circulator.
On 4/26/2020 at 4:41 PM, juniper222 said:

Hello Linda,

We are not allowed to give legal advice per the terms of service. I would recommend seeking an attorney for consult. Here is a little information from on the subject from an attorney's website...

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/what-patient-abandonment.html

Interesting, but it's all patient abandonment from the perspective of a physician or nurse practitioner, which I pretty sure does not follow the same principles as patient abandonment by an RN (or LPN). Has anyone here heard of a BON actually punishing an RN for abandonment if the RN did not accept report and hand-off?

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