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please read this closely:

1. the green card will not keep you from getting deported if you break the law in the us, something as simple as a dui can get you deported.

2. a visa out of status for any reason can get you deported. you get stopped for a traffic ticket, and out of status, do not pass go, and you will go to immigration detention.

3. a ssn# that is not a legal number will also get you deported. they are verifying them when you apply for a license.

4. does not matter if you have family, own a home, and a car, and even a business, if you get deported, you will be out of the country shortly, immigration does not care.

right now, ins is in a surge mode to pick up anyone that they find illegal in the us, for what ever reason..........please do not let this happen to you.

in california, they actually have immigration stops set up, and they are picking up people in large numbers. does not matter which country that you are from, how long that you have been in the us, etc. if you do not have a legal document permitting you to be in the us, you will be gone.

please be very careful. and all of the above also goes to nurses that have overstayed visas, immigration does not care. and if you get deported, it will be ten years before you will be able to return.

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after consulting with multiple immigration attorneys, it is not expected that any special visas for nurses will be available until the congress and the house of representatives create new visas, and not until later in the year. there will not be any schedule a visas appearing in the januray bulletin of the uscis until they become available. right now, there is no preference....strictly on where you were born.. if your country does not use up its allotment, then you will be able to get a visa earlier, otherwise all will be waiting. no special cicumstances apply here.

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without having us citizenship, you do not have the same rights as far as immigration. scary, but it is true.

actually, if i may say so, it is not that easy to deport anyone as you seem to suggest; for a start it takes the ins way more than a year to get around to deporting most and even then if you have a immigration attorney on to it , they can stall this process much longer depending on your illegal status suzanne.

and who goes to a detention center,often depends on your ethnicity and affluence.

believe me , i know people who were out of status,owned up and paid for a good immigration attorney and never saw any detention center.

e.g lobby the local politician,find loopholes in the system. techniques often exploited by attorneys, but will be costly and there are no garantees either etc

some have failed having done this.

i know people who have lived there a very long time illegally,and i even know a miliionare who is as illegal as the day he arrived there, poor.

for instance, a person who enters the us legally is in treated differentlty to a mexican who jumps the wall and enters the us illegally,and that is just one example,there are many more.

he will be deported forthwith,but not the other one,especially if he/she is anglo, prosperous and can afford a good attorney.

ask the many pub owners in new york, you would be surprised how many had gone that route and succeeded..

now whilst i don't wish to condone illegal acts nor contradict your sound advice, i do know people who live quite well in the usa illegally, with house and families, bank accounts,businesses employing more than ten americans,and have been stopped by the police,who have never asked them for any immigration documents.

if i may say so,unless the law changed recently in certain states, police who stop you for whatever are not in the slightest bit interested in your egal status, they are only interested in your license and other relevant automobile information, and why should they, they are not the ins.they have enough on their hands.

unless hey have changed their policy on repremanding traffic offenders,the courts who adjudicate such matters are not even interested in one's legal status.

but like i said, you have my sincere apologies if this has all come about in the last year.

but yes you are right in most of your advice , concerning green card holders will be deported if they act in contradiction to the law.

but even then, it would be diffilcult to deport someone for say defending oneself in a pub brawl, or assaulting an american who gets in your face and reminds how often his country has bailed us out in europe.

but if you give them lip,and talk like a embilcile,and display a self destruct attitude towards them, guess what!!

you will have a hard time staying there in the usa.

so whilst you are correct in that it is better to be legally living there,for piece of mind, deporting someone does depend a lot more on your socio ecomomic group,ethicity,type of illegal status, who you know,and that you are prepared to buy a good immigration attorney,and the last one will make or break you.

i am afraid to say i know people who have gone this route; america is still all about money.

do we need reminding of that one.

No, we said that deportation is being done in just a couple of months or weeks, not the year.

And if you are so interested in it, then what is your correlation between the two; each of your recent posts is involved with deportation issues. I am beginning to think that there is an ulterior motive of yours to get information here about doing something illegal and that is just not going to happen.

Lets get back to what this thread was about. Immigration issues that are happening in the US, and not the ways for someone to work here illegally. Please stick to what is being discussed here.

You are pushing for illegals to be here and that is not what we wish to see. Any immigration reform is not going to address this either. If you are not working in my country and familiar with what is happening here now, then why are you constantly putting in how things are being done when you have actually no idea of any of it.

We are all telling you that you are wrong with what you posted, what else do you care to see? It is most certainly not winning the good side of any of us, and there is just no reason for it.

This site is for nurses, not those that are trying to do things illegally. When you actually complete nurses training and wish to do something, please come back then. But to waste time of others arguing is just now what we wish to see here, especially since you have been incorrect in each and every post that you have made on this topic.

For the rest of us, lets just stop responding to her posts and then there will be no further time wastes happening and for no reason.

People come here to get information, and legal information. For someone coming here more interested in the the illegal way of doing things or how long before one is deported also raises one's eyebrows as well.

Please be aware that US immigration officers read here on a regular basis as do members of ICE. And that the internet is not as anonymous as one thinks.

And just to sum up things and why I have posted what I have:

1. You came here stating that you had 12 years of experience, at least that is what is in your profile.

2. You were posting asking about how to review for the NCLEX exam.

3. You stated that your attorney told you that you would be considered a specialist and could qualify for the H1-C visa that is limited to 500 at any one time and for the entire US, not per facility and no facility in AZ uses this.

4. You thought that one became a Master after writing the NCLEX exam.

5. Did not know of the MSN or what they did.

6. And then to find out, you have never even attended nursing school that is going to take you more than 3 years to complete. But are repeatedly here talking about immigration and getting deported.

You add all it together and it stinks.. Nothing less than that.

Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.

you are getting me and suzanne mixed up. it was i that said you had to prove that you was in the us with a valid work visa and that was in response to your comment and while we are on the subject of what is legal and is'nt,don't you think you are being a trifle naive to believe that all nurses working in the us are completly legal.

i have moved these threads from the immigration thread as this totally takes it off topic and away from immigration issues to be aware of.

i think you should just concentrate on your nurse training and one qualified look into what is happening with immigration issues and whether retrogression is still ongoing. a lot can happen in 3 years but also be aware retrogression may still be ongoing and you still have a long wait before you can work in the us. also not all uk training meets us training as requirements in the us is generalist training where as the uk is more specialist training. you may have to make hours up if short before any state will make you eligible to sit the nclex. if your plan is to work abroad once completed your training then arrange with your university to do hours both theory and practical/clinical in maternity, paeds, mental health as well as general adult

Specializes in Nephro, ICU, LTC and counting.

I think we should dedicate this forum to helping international nurses with their licensure, immigration, credentialing issues rather than attacking somebody personally.

Suzanne is here to help. Trying to twist something she said is just ridiculous.

SSN is one of the most important documents an employer requires before you can even start a job. The board of the nursing gives license to practice ...not for fun. If somebody choses to be licensed as US RN for fun, then probably only a fraction of the

Licensee will do so....

But the BON doesn't make rules based on the need of those fun-license holders. The board required you to have SSN, because it expects you to be practicing this profession.

Employers reserve the right to ask for your SSN card and employment eligibility verification anytime during your employment. Having an EAD once doesn't mean that you are immune to any further verifications. If the INS finds out about you working on an expired EAD, both you and your employer will be in trouble.

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