Ignoring your education?

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Lately I've been troubled by the nurses I encounter here who seem to ignore their education- look at the holistic board, it's full of posts ignoring evidence-based practice, or a stunning ignorance of how to find a reputable study.

Many of these nurses have BSN or higher, so are they just straight up ignoring all their education?

Specializes in Tele, OB, public health.
Your post smacks more of passive aggression than "calling out"
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Are you suggesting I be straight up agressive and call out people by name?????

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Let's remember to debate the subject not the poster. This subject is sure to generate disagreement (homeopathic vs. medical science) and I sometimes have to walk away when I get to this point >>>>>> :banghead:

So let's all try to be civil to one another. :up:

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Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.

I don't see much difference between any "pseudoscience" and the fact that the NANDA diagnosis of Disturbed Energy Field and a slew of approved CEU courses in "Therapeutic Touch" existed and was vociferously defended for 20 years.

As a result of all that there is probably a lot of overlap in the minds of nurses practicing today. I'm less likely to relegate any nurse who considers the efficacy of holistic concepts to the fringes.

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@dinah, not sure why you dragged this thread out as an example of nurses ignoring their education. It is an old thread and the recent posts discuss bloodless medicine, this is an option that is used in hospitals throughout North America for patients who need healthcare without the use of blood or blood products.

I went to check it out just now and it is a pretty active thread so I think that counts as something recent to be frustrated about regarding the OP's point.

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Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership.
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Are you suggesting I be straight up agressive and call out people by name?????

No, I am suggesting you debate the posters over there, in that thread, rather than bring it over here.

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I don't see much difference between any "pseudoscience" and the fact that the NANDA diagnosis of Disturbed Energy Field and a slew of approved CEU courses in "Therapeutic Touch" existed and was vociferously defended for 20 years.

As a result of all that there is probably a lot of overlap in the minds of nurses practicing today. I'm less likely to relegate any nurse who considers the efficacy of holistic concepts to the fringes.

I'm not a fan of Reiki . . . . :bag:

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I went to check it out just now and it is a pretty active thread so I think that counts as something recent to be frustrated about regarding the OP's point.

Bloodless medicine is something for educated nurses to be frustrated about?

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Bloodless medicine is something for educated nurses to be frustrated about?

The OP was asking about being a naturopath. The thread is too long for me to sift through and find the post about bloodless medicine.

To my understanding, that simply means surgery that uses no blood products or transfusions. Right?

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Specializes in Tele, OB, public health.
Let's remember to debate the subject not the poster. This subject is sure to generate disagreement (homeopathic vs. medical science) and I sometimes have to walk away when I get to this point >>>>>> :banghead:

So let's all try to be civil to one another. :up:

Thank you. I'm not sure how this turned into a post about my personal motivations

Some may doubt my motivation for this thread, but I was completely genuine and earnest in my original post:

I am completely confused as to how a medical professional that has had numerous science courses can turn around and promote pseudoscience

But, I'm one of those silly and naive people who believe that if people just see the evidence surely they will just change their minds

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The OP was asking about being a naturopath. The thread is too long for me to sift through and find the post about bloodless medicine.

To my understanding, that simply means surgery that uses no blood products or transfusions. Right?

The last page of thread contains the recent posts. Bloodless medicine can be with or without surgery, for example treating severe anemia without blood transfusions.

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I think I understand Dinah's point of view. It is embarrassing to read posts from nurses advocating not getting flu shots, or anti vaccinations. Generally speaking I believe some of these beliefs fall into the holistic nursing, CAM, school of thought.

If holistic nursing is strictly defined as " Holistic Nursing is the art and science of caring for the whole person. It is based on the belief that dynamic mind-body-spirit interactions are ongoing and impact a person's ability to grow and heal. Holistic nurses aim to promote health and wellness as they facilitate their client's growth and healing." That is hard to argue against.

I avoid the holistic nursing site, it tends to raise my blood pressure ....I don't think Dinah would get a calm rational debate there about using evidence based practice.

I am the type of person whose blood pressure goes up every time I go grocery shopping and see "organic" fruits and vegetables. I just know someday I am going to find the produce clerk and demand "inorganic" ( i.e., non-carbon based) bananas!

The word holistic...and the word organic...have come to mean different things to different people.

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Specializes in Hospital medicine; NP precepting; staff education.

The word holistic...and the word organic...have come to mean different things to different people.

Makes me want to post this:

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