If you speak your mind will you get a bad assignment? Come on..come clean!

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My girlfriend seems to be afraid to speak her mind because of the fact that the management system can always send her to the lesser or busier hospitals as a float pool thing shes in.

Specializes in Army Medic.

Why don't you give us an example of speaking your mind to base this off of?

There is a difference between complaining and speaking your mind - but it can be a really small difference, and is open to interpretation based around the structure of the conversation.

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I think if your girlfriend speaks her mind as you do, she will get the opportunity to build her own system free from the restraints of the current system. Perhaps the opportunity will not come from getting bad assigmnets, but one way or another.

The people I've see who are successfully building a better system are doing it from the positive end rather than the negative end. Here is one:

http://tcpr.temp.lexi.net/2007/01/cash-only-clinics-already-%e2%80%9ccover-tennessee%e2%80%9d-better-than-bureaucracy/

I've seen some innovative solutions for nursing homes also, but can't find the links right now. Off the top of my head I remember gardens (interested residents had their own plots), animals (flocks of finches, a pony I think, and various other farm and pet animals), kids (they had a day care and offered after school tutoring). It has been a while since I read up on them, but they were no rich facility add on projects, rather it was a joe blow community that wanted to blending the elderly and the community. In the process, the quality of care increased (staff ratios, lower staff turnover rates, etc) increased while the costs decreased.

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I'll check that link out Sayysfaa. . thanks.

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Specializes in Acute Care, Rehab, Palliative.
hi lori.... indeed she does not only listen to it.. but agrees with all of it. but i dont sweat any opposition regarding people who cannot see the limitations of their own self-indoctrination. there will always be lemmings in any system via restaurants, hospitals, politics etc. but awareness is the key. good fiscal facts with the presupposition of the symbiotic needs of the human condition. of course the " linnear" minds and the "priesthoods of the know" have no sentience of such concepts because of their premature cognitive commitments to a dated, imploding system they are in. we can convince ourselves of many many things based upon our innate needs to survive. theres a barnes and nobles open lori if you want to educate yourself? thanks. :yeah:

using big words does not constitute being wise.

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Using big words does not constitute being wise.

Hahaha...true, I stopped reading at some point because his big words gave me migraines. Simplicity sells!!!

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Airbrushguy, your "fight the power" got off to a dud start. You successfully alienated a whole group of people that you (I think) want to help by calling them lemmings in your third sentence. In addition, the only experience you share with that group is....being the boyfriend of a member of the group.

I'm just a nursing student, but, good god man...rethink your approach, will ya?

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hi lori.... indeed she does not only listen to it.. but agrees with all of it. but i dont sweat any opposition regarding people who cannot see the limitations of their own self-indoctrination. there will always be lemmings in any system via restaurants, hospitals, politics etc. but awareness is the key. good fiscal facts with the presupposition of the symbiotic needs of the human condition. of course the " linnear" minds and the "priesthoods of the know" have no sentience of such concepts because of their premature cognitive commitments to a dated, imploding system they are in. we can convince ourselves of many many things based upon our innate needs to survive. theres a barnes and nobles open lori if you want to educate yourself? thanks. :yeah:

:uhoh3: let me guess... you were a philosophy major, right?

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Specializes in Med/Surg, Ortho, ASC.
hi lori.... indeed she does not only listen to it.. but agrees with all of it. but i dont sweat any opposition regarding people who cannot see the limitations of their own self-indoctrination. there will always be lemmings in any system via restaurants, hospitals, politics etc. but awareness is the key. good fiscal facts with the presupposition of the symbiotic needs of the human condition. of course the " linnear" minds and the "priesthoods of the know" have no sentience of such concepts because of their premature cognitive commitments to a dated, imploding system they are in. we can convince ourselves of many many things based upon our innate needs to survive. theres a barnes and nobles open lori if you want to educate yourself? thanks. :yeah:

this brings up a suggestion that i saw a few weeks ago. at the time, i wondered at the thought process behind the suggestion, but now i understand.

the suggestion was that participation in allnurses.com be limited to those in the nursing profession or (possibly) in the process of nursing education. that way these forums would be limited to those who actually participate in the profession of nursing and would decrease the nonsense posts.

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This brings up a suggestion that I saw a few weeks ago. At the time, I wondered at the thought process behind the suggestion, but now I understand.

The suggestion was that participation in allnurses.com be limited to those in the nursing profession or (possibly) in the process of nursing education. That way these forums would be limited to those who actually participate in the profession of nursing and would decrease the nonsense posts.

It is still valuable to have posts from those outside of nursing, to both help clarify what we do to them, and for fresh ideas. As WeeBabyRN said in an earlier post, while the OP's method is a little crude, the underlying point is quite valid. It is nice to see the public is expressing some concern over hearing about the main nursing issue out there, which is poor and at times unsafe nurse : patient ratios. Anyone who dismisses this as a critical nursing issue hasn't done their homework.

Because after all, research shows that better ratios leads to better patient outcomes, and most importantly less death. Maybe if enough of the general public got wind of this we'd be able to evoke more change.

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Specializes in Med/Surg, Ortho, ASC.

"Maybe if enough of the general public got wind of this we'd be able to evoke more change. "

Agreed. But I don't come to allnurses.com to enter into debates with the general public over issues that I work with day in and day out. The general public cannot offer me the support that I've come to expect from my nursing colleagues at allnurses.com. The general public just doesn't get it, and a nursing forum with rogue threads from the general public will not change that.

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i really try and be as quaint as i can and i am not trying to verbally impress anyone with rhetoric or psychological re-bop. the point is that nurses seem to not only enable the spiral of disfuntion within the murky corridors of management but they inadvertently enable the system as a whole with their "hush-hush" mentality i.e. fear of getting sent to a floor/assignment where protocal is null and ratios are through the roof.

my validity with all of this is not only the echoing of my girlfriends misery in this system, but all of her friends and how they are scared to have a voice in this parasitic/paralizing quagmire.....hence do nothing about anything... because they might not get cherry-picked for overtime or get selected to go to a certain unit that is not busy ( see: skate / easy) .

hopefully this makes sense?

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Specializes in Med/Surg, Ortho, ASC.
i really try and be as quaint as i can and i am not trying to verbally impress anyone with rhetoric or psychological re-bop. the point is that nurses seem to not only enable the spiral of disfuntion within the murky corridors of management but they inadvertently enable the system as a whole with their "hush-hush" mentality i.e. fear of getting sent to a floor/assignment where protocal is null and ratios are through the roof.

my validity with all of this is not only the echoing of my girlfriends misery in this system, but all of her friends and how they are scared to have a voice in this parasitic/paralizing quagmire.....hence do nothing about anything... because they might not get cherry-picked for overtime or get selected to go to a certain unit that is not busy ( see: skate / easy) .

hopefully this makes sense?

thanks for illustrating my point about non-nursing posters.

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