I Think I've Just About Had It.......

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.......with my job. Maybe even my career.

On the surface, I've got it made: a secure, full-time day shift job with a day off right in the middle of the week, and no weekends. I work with many fine professionals and have a multitude of friends, two managers whom I adore (and one whom I at least don't hate), and while there's a weasel or two in every chickenhouse, those hateful, hypercritical perfectionist types are everywhere, and this hospital has fewer of them than any other place I've ever worked. I've worked here several times, once as an aide and twice as a nurse, and this time I've stayed over two years........a record for someone who'd never stuck with one position for longer than 19 months.

Maybe it's that old restlessness again. Maybe I'm just ready for a change. But what I do know is that my body just isn't tolerating the beating of a typical Med/Surg workday anymore.......I've been sick with one damn thing after another since mid-January, been to the hospital three times, admitted once for three days, had surgery, and now am fighting a kidney infection that came on despite two rounds of antibiotics. Why?? I've never been like this before in my life........up until this past year, I rarely if ever got sick, and if I did, it was ONE day, two at most. Now I spend WEEKS trying to get over one thing or another.......flu/bronchitis in Jan/Feb., chest pain and viral myocarditis in Feb., kidney stones and another round of bronchitis in Mar/April, surgery in late April, and now I get pyelo after the stents came out.

So, this has played nelly-hell with my status at work. I've been verbally warned, given corrective action (basically, a write-up), and now denied a promotion because I've been out sick so much that I've had to apply for FMLA (medical leave of absence). All of which, from a management standpoint, I completely understand.........after all, they're in the business of taking care of people, and if I can't be there doing what they hired me to do, they have to find someone who can.

But I can't ignore the very real possibility that, as more than one close friend or family member has told me, the physical stress of my job is more than my body can take anymore. It hurts my back to push beds over carpeted floors, but I do it because everyone is expected to be able to do this. It pains my soul to give the job all I've got and have it not be enough. I come home four evenings a week from my 11AM-7PM shift completely exhausted and ready for bed, not for spending quality time with my family and hearing about THEIR day. I gained all the weight back that I lost last summer and then some (I've since re-shed 23# of it) in no small part because as the 11 o'clock person, I'm seen as the 'break' nurse, and thus I'm assumed to not need lunch or breaks myself.....I rarely, if ever, get lunch before 2:30 PM. (Which in turn led me to snarfing down everything that wasn't red hot or nailed down!)

The weight, of course, only makes everything harder, so while I'm doing what I can to at least lose what I regained, it's going to take some time. In the meantime, my immune system is shot, I haven't felt good in months, and because my family depends on my income, I don't have the luxury of NOT pushing myself to go back to work too soon after an illness or surgery. I'm also trapped in a shift I have grown to dislike intensely......there's too much noise, too many extraneous people to stumble over, too many 'suits', too many families, admissions, post-ops, orders, and busy-work. The other night I was actually asked to work 3-11, and I was reminded of how badly I really do miss my old shift........it's still busy, but so much CALMER than day shift (and will someone tell me why we have to do so much more work for less money?!).

I didn't have to go look for a CNA to keep track of my post-op vital signs or do them myself; the night shift aides just do them without being told. (I'm very anal about this, and it frustrates me that the aides on days always need to be reminded, or they go out to smoke when vitals are due, or they fall behind and 'forget' to tell us nurses until it's too late.) The phone wasn't ringing off the hook. The 'suits' were all gone by 4PM. The noise level dropped so fast at 7 it was like the entire floor had folded up for the night. I had plenty to do, with three very heavy care patients and a post-op, but it was so much more do-able when I didn't have to deal with all the overstimulation and I had actual help with the incontinent patients.......it was delightful, and I went home tired but much more relaxed.

Now, there is officially no 3-11 shift anymore; believe me, if I could go back to it---and I've asked before---I would in a New York Minute. The only way to do it is to go casual, which means losing my health insurance (NOT a good thing, with over $15,000 in hospital/doctor/pharmacy bills racked up this year alone). I've gone so far as to put in a request for a transfer to our corporation's flagship hospital 12 miles away; there's a part-time 3-11 position open there that would allow me to keep my benefits AND probably pay more. It also might not be a bad idea to transfer anyway; the actual floors are set up in 'pods' where you don't have to walk so far just to answer a call light or get supplies, and I've heard their staffing ratios are better than ours (and ours aren't bad).

But I really hate the idea of leaving, even though I know it would likely be for the best. And I'm afraid I'm going to have to give up Med/Surg sooner rather than later, because even though I love the work, the job itself is getting to be more than I can take. I've got to support my family and pay my bills, of course, which is why this decision is going to be a hard one no matter which way I go with this. If nothing else, being ill for so much of the time lately has given me some perspective on humans' endless quest for money and material comforts; even though we have to have at least some to be completely satisfied. Life, I've decided, is too short to be this discontented; the world, too beautiful to be seen only through eyes dimmed by fatigue and tears.

I look forward to any insight you all may have to share with me. :)

Specializes in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot: my organization just happens to have a 24-hr/week position in hospice open......guess who applied for it today? :chuckle

I've already realized that I've GOT to get out of med/surg, or at least stop working it four days a week, year in and year out. I'd suspected I was going to have to give it up at some point, probably when I got close to 50 or a little over, but I'm not going to last that long and I know it. What I'm thinking about doing is, IF I get the hospice position, I'll go casual at the hospital and pick up a few shifts a month, just to keep my skills sharp and earn some extra money. I don't want to leave M/S entirely, but I'm burning out, and my body knows it even if my mind still doesn't want to wrap itself around that concept.

Thank you once again to everybody who's offered advice, encouragement, support, suggestions, and prayers on my behalf. The past two days, I've felt better both physically and mentally than I have in months, and even though I am going back to work tomorrow, I can deal for a little while until the changes I want and need can be made. :)

I would just like to share my thoughts about your situation as I have felt the same way. I had to leave ER, which was an area that I truly enjoyed, because of degenerative changes in my back. I was clearly not able to stand the demands of the job. At the time, I thought my nursing career was over. I finally began to step out and try other areas of nursing and I am currently working as an Occupational Health Nurse. I make several dollars an hour more and my job is no where near as stressful or physically demanding. I try to make decisions based on that my ability to work is my business and I have to make decisions that will enhance or improve that business. If you can find work that is less demanding on you overall then you can always do Med-Surg on the side.

Well, Marla, I'm not a nurse but I am a CNA and 54 and burnt out like I've never been in my life before.

I got into the health care area about 3 1/5 years ago because - at least in the city I live in - it has the most job security.

I started out and trained to be a CNA at a nursing home. Got a few years of experience there and then moved on to a nearby hospital. If I can get the training, there are more opportunities to get into another career.

I thought about nursing also when I decided my career change from secretarial/accounting clerical work but after observing the stress you all are under, I said "nyet".

At first, at this hospital, work seemed not as stressful as the nursing home.

But it has become in the last 9 months as hard as the nursing home. No need to explain to you all that 90% of our patients are elderly, have 3-4 chronic problems to address in addition to the primary one they were admitted for.

I'm the type that will kick a$$ to get the job done (even at my old age!). I rotate, like may others here, from day shift to evening and back again.

A typical patient workload is 15+. That means that my work area is not a compact 6 patient area but one half the size of a football field. That means that not one nurse but 2-3+ need my attention.

To sum up, when I am done, I'm am numb. I don't want to talk to anyone on the phone or elsewhere. I don't want to socialize. I don't want to pay bills, do laundry, dust, clean house, tackle the yard, etc.

I want to send my mind to another place such as here or elsewhere on the Internet, read or watch TV. I don't want my body to have to move.

I am single and have no children.

I am done for and too tired to work on schooling which might help me get out of this rut.

We give and give and give all day, 8+ hours a day, not only to our patients but to the higher ups so their precious hospital can get on some "Best Hospitals in the Country" list, to family members who are allowed to talk to us as no other professional needs to tolerate.

What other job demands so much? Why do we continue to put up with it until we are so wrecked, the management has to put us out to pasture? At this rate, the new graduate nurses in their 20's will be catatonic when they reach their mid 30's.

Cripes, at the hospital I work at, there were 20 calloffs on day shift day before yesterday.

I'm a praying person and too often all I can do is pray "please God, help me".

I need every dang dime I make and yet don't volunteer for overtime work which would help me because I need my 2 days a week to recuperate and that's not cutting it any more. If there's a low census day, and I am called to see if I want it, I take it even though my PTO may be zip and I will get less money in my pay check.

I've seen my doctor 3 times so far this year about fatique. He took blood tests for rheumatoid arthritus, anemia, lupus and some other things and everything was fine. (You know it's bad, when you hope something shows up so you may be able to get a rest!)

He prescribed Wellbutrin and then doubled it for energy, he said, and nothing's changed.

So often, when I start the shift and take vitals, my patients tell me I look so tired.

Well, thank's for letting me vent.

Specializes in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych.
Well, Marla, I'm not a nurse but I am a CNA and 54 and burnt out like I've never been in my life before.

I got into the health care area about 3 1/5 years ago because - at least in the city I live in - it has the most job security.

I started out and trained to be a CNA at a nursing home. Got a few years of experience there and then moved on to a nearby hospital. If I can get the training, there are more opportunities to get into another career.

I thought about nursing also when I decided my career change from secretarial/accounting clerical work but after observing the stress you all are under, I said "nyet".

At first, at this hospital, work seemed not as stressful as the nursing home.

But it has become in the last 9 months as hard as the nursing home. No need to explain to you all that 90% of our patients are elderly, have 3-4 chronic problems to address in addition to the primary one they were admitted for.

I'm the type that will kick a$$ to get the job done (even at my old age!). I rotate, like may others here, from day shift to evening and back again.

A typical patient workload is 15+. That means that my work area is not a compact 6 patient area but one half the size of a football field. That means that not one nurse but 2-3+ need my attention.

To sum up, when I am done, I'm am numb. I don't want to talk to anyone on the phone or elsewhere. I don't want to socialize. I don't want to pay bills, do laundry, dust, clean house, tackle the yard, etc.

I want to send my mind to another place such as here or elsewhere on the Internet, read or watch TV. I don't want my body to have to move.

I am single and have no children.

I am done for and too tired to work on schooling which might help me get out of this rut.

We give and give and give all day, 8+ hours a day, not only to our patients but to the higher ups so their precious hospital can get on some "Best Hospitals in the Country" list, to family members who are allowed to talk to us as no other professional needs to tolerate.

What other job demands so much? Why do we continue to put up with it until we are so wrecked, the management has to put us out to pasture? At this rate, the new graduate nurses in their 20's will be catatonic when they reach their mid 30's.

Cripes, at the hospital I work at, there were 20 calloffs on day shift day before yesterday.

I'm a praying person and too often all I can do is pray "please God, help me".

I need every dang dime I make and yet don't volunteer for overtime work which would help me because I need my 2 days a week to recuperate and that's not cutting it any more. If there's a low census day, and I am called to see if I want it, I take it even though my PTO may be zip and I will get less money in my pay check.

I've seen my doctor 3 times so far this year about fatique. He took blood tests for rheumatoid arthritus, anemia, lupus and some other things and everything was fine. (You know it's bad, when you hope something shows up so you may be able to get a rest!)

He prescribed Wellbutrin and then doubled it for energy, he said, and nothing's changed.

So often, when I start the shift and take vitals, my patients tell me I look so tired.

Well, thank's for letting me vent.

Anytime, jyoung.........that's what we're here for!

I wish I had some words of wisdom for you, but I don't, so all I can say is, THANK YOU for doing what is one of the hardest and most thankless jobs in health care. I was a CNA before I became an RN, and even though my experience was a bit different, I know how hard you all work and how poorly you're paid in comparison with those who are a little higher on the healthcare food chain. I also know what you mean about being so burned-out that you welcome low-census days and accept that first cut whether you have PTO or not......I'm in the same position, and sometimes I too will take a cut just because I need the time off even more than I need the money (and I DO need the money).

Thanks for posting, and hang in there if you can.......and if you can't, PLEASE don't feel guilty about it. This job has done in a lot of good people; you and I aren't the first, nor will we be the last, unfortunately. :o

It's OK, You are younger than I am and I want to go back into nursing, I was a cna for 25+ years and trained at a local hospital in their LPN course way back when, they pulled the program just before graduation and we left with a cna instead of a license. I worked for a wonderful Dr. for over 14+ years until he retired and I went into a computer field with smart mapping could not get a job, lots of internships but no perminate work when the contracts are up so are you. I am scared, I heard all the horror stories about the waiting lists even if you get into the program, your a number, and if you are lucky might, just might be picked to continue. Your drive inspires me and lets face it bad things and life happen to all people. We are not super human and because we have a servants heart and compasionate spirits, I think we forget we need to be compasionate with ourselves. That kindness and compassion that heals others will heal you. We did not choose this filed it has choosen us, it's who we are be it curse or blessing. We just have to be creative and open to other choices in this field wheather it is x-ray, hospice, patient management or admitting that compassion comes out and touches others we may never see it or know it but it does. We all need things that just part of the human flesh. This is the first time I have responded and I hope this is the right way if there is such a thing in posting. Just Breath be good to yourself don't forget we need teachers and teachers aides badly and the pay is awful to be sure, but we will be very grateful and make you all proud someday, speaking from someone who would like to see a nursing school like the old days. And there is always Theraputic touch or Healing Touch.

Peace from Las Vegas NV

.......with my job. Maybe even my career.

On the surface, I've got it made: a secure, full-time day shift job with a day off right in the middle of the week, and no weekends. I work with many fine professionals and have a multitude of friends, two managers whom I adore (and one whom I at least don't hate), and while there's a weasel or two in every chickenhouse, those hateful, hypercritical perfectionist types are everywhere, and this hospital has fewer of them than any other place I've ever worked. I've worked here several times, once as an aide and twice as a nurse, and this time I've stayed over two years........a record for someone who'd never stuck with one position for longer than 19 months.

Maybe it's that old restlessness again. Maybe I'm just ready for a change. But what I do know is that my body just isn't tolerating the beating of a typical Med/Surg workday anymore.......I've been sick with one damn thing after another since mid-January, been to the hospital three times, admitted once for three days, had surgery, and now am fighting a kidney infection that came on despite two rounds of antibiotics. Why?? I've never been like this before in my life........up until this past year, I rarely if ever got sick, and if I did, it was ONE day, two at most. Now I spend WEEKS trying to get over one thing or another.......flu/bronchitis in Jan/Feb., chest pain and viral myocarditis in Feb., kidney stones and another round of bronchitis in Mar/April, surgery in late April, and now I get pyelo after the stents came out.

So, this has played nelly-hell with my status at work. I've been verbally warned, given corrective action (basically, a write-up), and now denied a promotion because I've been out sick so much that I've had to apply for FMLA (medical leave of absence). All of which, from a management standpoint, I completely understand.........after all, they're in the business of taking care of people, and if I can't be there doing what they hired me to do, they have to find someone who can.

But I can't ignore the very real possibility that, as more than one close friend or family member has told me, the physical stress of my job is more than my body can take anymore. It hurts my back to push beds over carpeted floors, but I do it because everyone is expected to be able to do this. It pains my soul to give the job all I've got and have it not be enough. I come home four evenings a week from my 11AM-7PM shift completely exhausted and ready for bed, not for spending quality time with my family and hearing about THEIR day. I gained all the weight back that I lost last summer and then some (I've since re-shed 23# of it) in no small part because as the 11 o'clock person, I'm seen as the 'break' nurse, and thus I'm assumed to not need lunch or breaks myself.....I rarely, if ever, get lunch before 2:30 PM. (Which in turn led me to snarfing down everything that wasn't red hot or nailed down!)

The weight, of course, only makes everything harder, so while I'm doing what I can to at least lose what I regained, it's going to take some time. In the meantime, my immune system is shot, I haven't felt good in months, and because my family depends on my income, I don't have the luxury of NOT pushing myself to go back to work too soon after an illness or surgery. I'm also trapped in a shift I have grown to dislike intensely......there's too much noise, too many extraneous people to stumble over, too many 'suits', too many families, admissions, post-ops, orders, and busy-work. The other night I was actually asked to work 3-11, and I was reminded of how badly I really do miss my old shift........it's still busy, but so much CALMER than day shift (and will someone tell me why we have to do so much more work for less money?!).

I didn't have to go look for a CNA to keep track of my post-op vital signs or do them myself; the night shift aides just do them without being told. (I'm very anal about this, and it frustrates me that the aides on days always need to be reminded, or they go out to smoke when vitals are due, or they fall behind and 'forget' to tell us nurses until it's too late.) The phone wasn't ringing off the hook. The 'suits' were all gone by 4PM. The noise level dropped so fast at 7 it was like the entire floor had folded up for the night. I had plenty to do, with three very heavy care patients and a post-op, but it was so much more do-able when I didn't have to deal with all the overstimulation and I had actual help with the incontinent patients.......it was delightful, and I went home tired but much more relaxed.

Now, there is officially no 3-11 shift anymore; believe me, if I could go back to it---and I've asked before---I would in a New York Minute. The only way to do it is to go casual, which means losing my health insurance (NOT a good thing, with over $15,000 in hospital/doctor/pharmacy bills racked up this year alone). I've gone so far as to put in a request for a transfer to our corporation's flagship hospital 12 miles away; there's a part-time 3-11 position open there that would allow me to keep my benefits AND probably pay more. It also might not be a bad idea to transfer anyway; the actual floors are set up in 'pods' where you don't have to walk so far just to answer a call light or get supplies, and I've heard their staffing ratios are better than ours (and ours aren't bad).

But I really hate the idea of leaving, even though I know it would likely be for the best. And I'm afraid I'm going to have to give up Med/Surg sooner rather than later, because even though I love the work, the job itself is getting to be more than I can take. I've got to support my family and pay my bills, of course, which is why this decision is going to be a hard one no matter which way I go with this. If nothing else, being ill for so much of the time lately has given me some perspective on humans' endless quest for money and material comforts; even though we have to have at least some to be completely satisfied. Life, I've decided, is too short to be this discontented; the world, too beautiful to be seen only through eyes dimmed by fatigue and tears.

I look forward to any insight you all may have to share with me. :)

Specializes in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych.

What a beautiful, heartwarming post! Thank you, Imojean, your kind words are most appreciated. :p

Wow. I certainly saw myself in your post, or at least the wreck I was two years ago. I was working 12 hour shifts with rheumatoid arthritis and fibro and it was not working for me at all.

When people talk about the nursing shortage and come up with plans to alleviate it through scholarships or token raises, I have to laugh. The job as it is simply wrecks our bodies over the years. Nurses take it in the back and the knees, even young and healthy nurses. The hours are brutal and getting worse. Overtime shifts, 12 hours at a crack, are now mandatory in most facilities; new overtime regulations are being phased in so that overtime pay isn't being given to nurses newly classified as salaried employees. None of this stuff is being adressed by administrators who are wringing their hands over the persistent nursing shortage.

Young women now have a huge selection of jobs that will pay them as well as nursing does but not wreck their bodies, destroy their sleep cycles, and eliminate their family time. If administrators want to tackle the real roots of the nursing shortage, they're going to have to do something about the JOB.

As for me, I've given up. I loved my coworkers and my patients, but the combination of the brutal hours, the increasing workload, and the ever increasing non nursing tasks piled on because hospitals are all trying to save money by eliminating ancillary workers and dumping the whole business on the backs of nursing staff, while allowing attrition to decrease staffing over time, have finally done me in. There is no way I can go back to that.

I understand your career reassessment. I've been undergoing it, myself. Alas, in this area, the jobs I'd counted on doing when my back finally gave out are being shipped overseas by competing hospitals in cutthroat competition.

Good luck in whatever you do. There are a lot more of us out here than you think.

Hi Marla, I've missed you.

I'm sorry you're going through all of this. I know it's scary, but you have to take care of yourself. You can't push and push your body and spirit until both totally give out. Then, where would you and your family be?

The job at the 12-miles-away hospital sounds like a good bet for you.

Please take care-

Christina

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...But I really hate the idea of leaving, even though I know it would likely be for the best. And I'm afraid I'm going to have to give up Med/Surg sooner rather than later, because even though I love the work, the job itself is getting to be more than I can take. I've got to support my family and pay my bills, of course, which is why this decision is going to be a hard one no matter which way I go with this. If nothing else, being ill for so much of the time lately has given me some perspective on humans' endless quest for money and material comforts; even though we have to have at least some to be completely satisfied. Life, I've decided, is too short to be this discontented; the world, too beautiful to be seen only through eyes dimmed by fatigue and tears.

I look forward to any insight you all may have to share with me. :)

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How long have you been thinking about it? If you just started thinking, think for another two weeks. It might be a series of bad nights, or it might be time to move on. You'll know.

xo

marla,

The awesome thing about our profession is we are not easily pigeon holed. There are so many areas to work as a nurse, maybe it is your time to shine in another arena! Just something to keep in mind as you explore your options!

Indiana State University has an online program for nursing, so if the waiting lists are incredible that is an option also!

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Marla, I just wanted to tell you how much of an inspiration you are to me! :) I agree with everyone who said that you need to take care of yourself first. You sound like a wonderful nurse and caregiver. Out of curiosity,... when's the last time you had a vacation? Even if it is taking a week off to sit a relax on the couch, it may be a good idea. You are a very determined, hard working women, who despretly needs to break. I do not mean a sick break either. I also agree that the hospital 12 miles away would be the best bet. If your co-workers are complaining, even with you working as hard as you are, then they don't deserve you. I want to wish you luck in whatever you decide to do.

Best of Wishes,

Jennifer

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