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This is an open ended, rhetorical question for anyone who is in management that used to be a regular staff/floor nurse. This is for those nurses who used to be one of the girls and who would get their butts beat down in the trenches on a regular basis alongside his or her coworkers and who then accepted positions of leadership such as charge nurse, nurse manager, dept. head, administrator etc..
I have to ask collectively, what happened to you? Why did you sell out? Was it really worth the few extra bucks thrown your way? Or is it that you are so insecure about yourself that the crumbs of power thrown your way along with your meaningless title somehow make you feel better about yourself?
I keep hearing about how the costs of healthcare have risen 20% every year for the last five years now. But relative to inflation, my overall compensation has actually dropped a bit when you factor in increased deductions for my benefits. Therefore, I think I am quite right in saying that the rising costs of medical care are not my fault. Yet somehow, I am the one who is being asked to make up for those rising costs in the form of increased patient loads, having to do more work with less resources and being basically told to shut up and be a "team player" lest someone else need to be found who will do the same work with a smile.
Whose idea was it to shift the burden for data entry to the nursing staff under the guise of "computerized charting"? When you tell me it is computerized charting, what that means to me is that I chart my assessments, interventions and outcomes on a computer as opposed to on paper. Instead, what I am finding, both from my own experience and from those of my peers is that we now have to do both because there is no way I can explain to a jury what I saw, what I did and what happened as a result of my observations/actions using the computer programs you are forcing me to use. Although, I am sure there are more than a few coding and data entry specialists off your payroll now. When you were a floor nurse, would you have been dancing around, bubbling with excitement about having to essentially do double charting? Then why are you so surprised that I am not?
Have you not realized that as medicine has become more advanced and specialized, so too has nursing? When you were working on the floor, were you comfortable with having a co-worker who only works in an ER setting and had never even been orientated to your unit? Were you comfortable being floated to a critical care setting when you had no critical care experience? This attitude and mentality that an RN is an RN and can do anything required of an RN is just insane. Having an ER nurse float to a dialysis floor with no experience is akin to having an ENT doctor working in the Cardiac Cath. Lab for the day. It is unheard of. It would not happen. Yet it is just fine and dandy for your RN's to be shafted like this. Don't you remember when that would happen and you would roll your eyes, shake your head and complain to the brick walls above you wearing the suits? Now you are in the unique position of having a say about things like this, you're the one wearing the suit and yet you do nothing! Is there a part of you that still cares?
When your boss tells you that in order to save money, support staff will be cut and your nurses will have to pick up the slack, why do you roll over and say nothing? Remember how annoying it was when a housekeeper would call out sick on your shift and you would either have to hide the messes or simply clean it up on top of your regular patient care responsibilities? Then why is it that you are OK with the wholesale cutting of support staff to save money and shifting that burden to the nurses. I know that you have responsibilities to your bosses and to your budget and I actually do respect that. But, just as you work FOR the people above you, remember that you also work FOR the people below you as well.
Nursing is consistently ranked as the top most trusted profession, not only in this country, but in the world. And for good reason. For most people, the word "Nurse" implies a trust and a sacred bond. Peoples lives and wellbeing are quite literally in our hands. From my own personal perspective, I feel that I have a duty to uphold that perception of trust for the sake of my chosen profession. I find it abhorrent to have to do anything that may lessen that perception in the eyes of the people I serve. I have very serious concerns when I am told that I need to do things like collect billing, contact and insurance information or I need to escort the patient to a co-payment collection desk, even if it is at the end of their visit. I see the possibility of people then wondering where my true loyalties lie. Is it to the patients wellbeing or to the account's receivable department? Can you, as a boss, at least see where I am coming from on this? Or is that twenty bucks really more important than the trust that has been painstakingly earned over the last century? I still remember back to my nursing 1 class when I learned that even up to the mid 1800's, whores and hookers who were convicted in the courts were still given the option of 6 months in jail or 6 months labor in a hospital as a nurse.
When did public relations and marketing become a larger part of nursing responsibilities? At my soon to be former hospital, the nurses are required to make follow up calls within 24 hours of a patient being discharged. I was told we have to do this because it has been proven to raise scores on patient satisfaction surveys. So in essence, you are not interested in the patient's opinion of their stay here, your are interested in their overall perception of our facility in general. Basically, you are just peachy in "queering up" the numbers as long as they look better in the end. Looking at this from a broader sense, to what end does that accomplish? Say you do eventually get the high score, say you actually find yourself ahead of Mr. and Mrs. Jones, what do you win that justifies whoring out your nurses for cheap and tawdry marketing gimmicks? Getting back to the point of this rant, would this have been acceptable when you were working on the floor? Would you have rolled out of bed and celebrated the fact that on top of patient care, you also got to call back all the patients you discharged yesterday? I didn't think so.
Along with that pay raise and your added responsibilities, you were also given a title when you moved up the ladder. Remember when one of your co-workers was promoted and then morphed into a complete jerk who could not be approached or questioned lest you be accused of being disrespectful? Is that you? Because if it is, I will remind you that while I do have to give at least a token amount of respect to your title, I do not have to give you, personally, any respect what so ever. If you want respect, you have to earn it. Don't worry, it really is not all that hard to do. I would suggest starting by respecting the professionals you are charged to provide leadership for. You have no idea how far basic human respect and courtesy go.
Do you recall how hard it was to get your license? Remember how precious it was when you got it in your hands? Remember your more seasoned co-workers telling you to be careful in what you do so that it may not be suspended or revoked and wondering and even being a little anxious about that? I certainly do. Now that you are above that, why is it OK now, for you to put those licensed professionals below you in precarious licensure situations by winking at dangerous staffing levels, decreasing support and eliminating resources to save money? Before you think to yourself that you are not that type of manager, I will ask you if you are willing to personally take responsibility for those cost saving measures? If you are, good for you! But until I see, in writing, a policy stating that those in charge are fully and solely responsible for situations that arise from those cost saving measures, then you are little more than a blowhard hypocrite in my eyes. I know that, should push come to shove, you will be the one signing the letter that details my incompetence to my nursing board. You will write how I neglected my patient to their detriment and conveniently omit the fact that you were the one gave me a 10 patient, high acuity assignment with little or no help. And to hearken back, yet again, to the point of this, were you cool with situations like this when you were faced with them on the floor?
From my overall perspective, the problems now in nursing can be traced to two main things. The great redesign debacle of the 80's and 90's where experienced and seasoned nurses were forced out in favor of younger and cheaper nurses and their wholly inadequate support staff. This caused 2 ill turns of fortune in our profession. It embittered a lot of experienced nurses who were forced out of their good paying jobs and in which they were expert in doing. Even to the point where, by word of mouth, they discouraged many younger people to avoid this honored profession. It also led to early burnout and embittered those left behind who were expected to take a huge responsibility with ridiculously inadequate support. We are paying for that not only now but will pay for it for a for a long time to come. The other thing currently conspiring against nursing is the influence of HMO's. To that end, don't blame me because you, the hospital administrator except below cost compensation for the care that is provided for their paying customers. In my opinion, the 20% annual increase in health care costs, in large part, are going mostly towards Wall Street in the form of profits, dividends and excessive compensation. I would like to avoid terms like pillage, profiteering and exploitation but no better ones come to mind.
Do you see the common denominator in my perception? They way I see it, more and more, patient care is being dictated by accountants who have never touched a patient in their lives save for reaching around them and grabbing hold of their wallet. Why is it that way? Why do you let that happen? Why do you go along with everything they say? You, my former comrades in arms, are increasingly acting like little more than the impotent, minion mouthpiece you have collectively become. Increasingly, selling out your own.
If, dear boss, this is you, may you choke on those 30 pieces of silver you sold your passion, loyalty and very soul for. I may be overworked, unappreciated and underpaid, but at least I can still look in a mirror and see a person of integrity staring back.
Every nurse needs to read, "Nursing Against the Odds", by Suzanne Gordon. It goes into great detail about everything that has been mentioned in the thread. Also, at the end, pay attention to her suggestions. Also, "Where Have All the Nurses Gone", and "Code Green", outlines the changes in the nursing profession in the last 15 years. Take heed to her suggesions at the end of the book, and her observations, on what the nurses did wrong.
Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN
Spokane, Washington
I actually mostly like my manager. She's pretty fair in my experience and usually does try to help out when we need it.
There are some points I disagree with though. "Customer service" is not what nurses do and it should not be used as a justification to tolerate hostile working conditions. Nurses provide quality nursing care and that includes treating their patients and visitors with respect and kindness. "Customer service" implies that the customer (patient) is always right. They aren't. When mangers don't recognize that they set up a bad situation on the unit. You can recover from the loss of one patient, you don't recover from a mass exodus of RNs if they are disrespected daily.
I also have to say, I don't appreciate the way money is a selective excuse. We can afford a lot of pretty useless gadgets, but can't afford to cover a sick call on a holiday? I don't like that a bit.
I also have to say, I don't appreciate the way money is a selective excuse. We can afford a lot of pretty useless gadgets, but can't afford to cover a sick call on a holiday? I don't like that a bit.
I agree. How is it that we can afford to make the hospital lobby luxurious and double the size of the ER, but suddenly can't afford to pay the staff for the extra work they must do?
I know there are nurse managers out there that do not agree with this post however I have to agree. As a staff nurse, I can name six shifts in the last two weeks where I have been forced to take more patients than our established safe ratios in the ICU. I have been told by the nursing supervisor on several occasions to "flex up" , "suck it up", or "punt" in regards to unsafe ratios. I have spoke with my operations coordinator about this but the nothing changes. She is a good person but this is coming from higher up, the ones so far removed form the bedside they would have no idea how to practice as a bedside nurse. Cut to the "bare bones", we're over budget. How is this safe for the patients? They're the reason we have a budget. They pay our salary!!!!!
Renee
There are some points I disagree with though. "Customer service" is not what nurses do and it should not be used as a justification to tolerate hostile working conditions.
Nobody should tolerate a hostile working environment, nobody. However when it comes to customer service, that's life. Nursing is changing for the good and bad and this is one of the changes. The hospitals that are not making these changes are the hospitals that don't have to, places like county facilities. Where are the patients going to go if they don't spew the words, "Is there anything else I can get for you? I have the time." The hospitals that are making these changes are the ones that are trying to keep the doors open.
I was just offered a job yesterday at a hospital I had never heard of before and I've lived in this city for 19 out of the last 20 years. Hospitals are opening up all over the place. There is competition that didn't used to be there. There are lots of things I don't feel are right or fair about being a nurse but sadly, life isn't always right and fair.
Patients ARE looking up info on line, they ARE aware of their rights, they ARE aware of what one hospital offers over another. That's how it is. Just because we may not like the customer service motto or attitudes doesn't mean it is going to go away. If we don't like the way our hospital is run and if we cannot change what we don't like then perhaps we need to move on. I'm really not singling you out Fergus, you are one of my favorite people here. I'm referring to ALL of us. This is it, this is nursing, this is what it is all about now. I'm finding it is no longer my cup of tea for a lot of reasons. I love contract work and that is likely what I will continue doing.
Nurses provide quality nursing care and that includes treating their patients and visitors with respect and kindness. "Customer service" implies that the customer (patient) is always right. They aren't.
Not sure I agree with that. While I do believe it certainly feels that way at times it really doesn't mean that. The reality is that we have to compete with hospitals that ARE doing the customer service routine. It's no longer a choice or what we would like to do or have time to do. It's just a reality. And btw, this is NOT the fault of the manager. I don't think there is any job that is on the line more in a hospital setting than a manager and the sucky part is that a manager is never going to win. They are forced to put policies in place that are sheer stupidity and do it in such a manner that nursing can accept. They are essentially told that here, here is what you have to work with, here are your tools, here is the workload now you find a way to make it work. Yet who is blamed when there is no way to make it work and everyone is up in arms? Yeah, that would be the manager.
When mangers don't recognize that they set up a bad situation on the unit. You can recover from the loss of one patient, you don't recover from a mass exodus of RNs if they are disrespected daily.
But we aren't just losing a single patient. We are losing LOTS of patients and that is why soooo many hospitals that focus more on patient care are opening up and they are a success. That is why hospitals are specializing in various treatments and procedures. They are trying to find their niche in the system.
Transplants... what a horror! Ever work for a hospital setting up a brand stinking new transplant unit? You know those stats they boast of such as a 99% success rate? How do you think they get that 99% success rate? It's an absolute horror sometimes. What we do to some people to force them to live to a very specific calander date so they "fit" with our stats is shocking. But that is what medicine has come down to. We have to specialize in something, our hospital name has to be associated as being the best in "X" area. THAT is where the care we provide suffers. In trying to make a name for ourselves because that is where the focus of the hospital is in.
Those special gadgets nobody uses? Since when does a hospital knowingly waste money on supplies and equipment? They don't, they buy that garbage because some idiot doc said they want it. Then when they get it they find out it isn't so great afterall. The MN is being blamed for that too and the NM has no more control over how those dollars are spent than you are. Yet who is blamed?
I wouldn't be a manager again if my life depended on it. I played fetch for the Big Guys for 18 years, working 16-20-hour days while they and their cronies collected $$$'s in bonuses and disappeared for weeks on all-expense-paid trips to God knows where...only to return in order to demand even MORE out of us, so they could justify their NEXT bonus and excursion.. Nope, zero, zilch, nada. :angryfire
Nobody should tolerate a hostile working environment, nobody. However when it comes to customer service, that's life. Nursing is changing for the good and bad and this is one of the changes. The hospitals that are not making these changes are the hospitals that don't have to, places like county facilities. Where are the patients going to go if they don't spew the words, "Is there anything else I can get for you? I have the time." The hospitals that are making these changes are the ones that are trying to keep the doors open.Those special gadgets nobody uses? Since when does a hospital knowingly waste money on supplies and equipment? They don't, they buy that garbage because some idiot doc said they want it. Then when they get it they find out it isn't so great afterall. The MN is being blamed for that too and the NM has no more control over how those dollars are spent than you are. Yet who is blamed?
Trust me, it's our nurse manager buying some useless gadgets because she thinks they're neat. Saw them at a nursing conference. It may be just because I work in one specialty area, but the docs have very little say on what the nurse manager buys us in terms of supplies. They actually complain about some of the new stuff too.
I still disagree with you on customer service. I have never in my entire career had a patient or family ask for me to not care for them. Not once... and I think that's quite an accomplishment in an area known for "do not look after my baby" lists. In that time, I have never used customer service lines like "Is there anything I can do for you? I have the time":rolleyes: . I think we really do a diservice to patients when we think we need to do anything other than treat them with competence and respect. People don't need us to kiss their butts, they need us to save their butts.
I also work in an area where sometimes we have to disagree with parents. For us in the NICU, it's the parents that we have to please or not please. Sometimes what a parent wants is bad for their baby and we have to stop them or we have to insist on treatment. I have seen nurses do the best thing for their patient get in trouble because the parent was mad about it. That's not ok. Nursing care should not be compromised by customer service, end of story as far as I'm concerned and a good manager recognizes that regardless of the pressures from above. If she can't see that, she shouldn't be in nursing management... she should probably be the CEO:chuckle (kidding). Seriously, I have seen managers who go to bat for their staff (when the staff was in the right) and those hospitals aren't in danger of closing because they don't have enough business. We have to rely on travellers and agency nurses just to staff for the number of babies we have at any given time. The sky isn't falling.
Bipley, this is the kind of thing I'm talking about. There is no way I'd put up with that kind of nonsense in the name of customer service:
https://allnurses.com/forums/f8/i-have-never-met-anyone-like-her-137807.html
I just went browsing through the message boards and came across your post just when I was questioning the very thing myself. I accepted an ADNS job in August. I felt I could be a voice for the nurses in the trenches and do some good. The raise, title, and Monday-Friday 8-4 hours were an added incentive I must admit after, working 11p-7a five days a week, every otherweekend, for 12 years. Since starting this new position I have been appalled by the "us" and "them" attitude I have encountered. I don't think I want to be an "us" anymore. All my friends are nurses and aides still on the floor, "them", but administration discourages these friendships by asking me to keep secrets from the staff suggesting they can not be trusted with information. I am tired of hearing about the budget and how thrilled the administator is with departments that come in under budget without even thinking about the staff and patients who had to get by with less. They do spout off about staff being team players and yet they don't seem to be required to pull any of the weight for the team themselves. You must be on their team- they have no interest in being on yours. I think I will put in for the next position that opens up and go back to the floors before I become one of those bosses you described.
I wouldn't be a manager again if my life depended on it. I played fetch for the Big Guys for 18 years, working 16-20-hour days while they and their cronies collected $$$'s in bonuses and disappeared for weeks on all-expense-paid trips to God knows where...only to return in order to demand even MORE out of us, so they could justify their NEXT bonus and excursion.. Nope, zero, zilch, nada. :angryfire
Ditto. I'll work a street corner before I work in a hospital as a unit manager again.
Bipley
845 Posts
What in the world gives you the idea that I said nothing? Or that any of us said nothing? What do you have to back this up? I would pitch fits, create graphs and charts, demonstrate nursing error corrolates with being short staffed, I did every bloody thing in my power to get more staff. It's more than unfair of you to assume otherwise. Attitudes like this are a big reason why a person who has a genuine insterest in making a unit better finally gives up, puts their foot down, and screams... ENOUGH! You don't like it? Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
And the more you slither up the food chain of authority in a hospital the more budgets are crammed down your throat. There ARE only so many dollars to spend. We may need $1.50 for every $1.00 we get to do the job properly but the bottom line is that we have a very expensive hospital to run. The pay and benefits you receive make up the majority portion of hospital costs. Your cost to the hospital is NOT just your salary. It's the taxes that are matched, the benefits that the hospital pays the majority of, the additional taxes the hospital has, the times you call out sick and need to be replaced, the Worker's Comp premiums, and the list goes on and on. Employees are the biggest expense to a hospital. When I was in management employee costs accounted for 75% of hospital dollars. Not sure what it is now.
When people began demanding that the customer is always right. We have been forced into a situation where if we don't serve the customer the way they expect to be served, they go somewhere where they do get what they want. That's just a reality of life and you and I won't be changing that in the near future. If you want to push all the patients to your fellow hospital, likely you will. But that means you will be out of a job and eventually you will go to a hospital where you give the patients what they demand if you want patients to care for.
Nursing is the first in line when it comes to patients. A patient does not return to a hospital because of their doctor, they return because of their nursing. They can get great care, and a super outcome to their overall condition but if they were not treated as they feel they should by nursing they WILL and DO go hospital shopping. Customer service is a part of your job. Period.
I can't continue with this post. I'm getting too angry.
Look, you can blame your manager for the sky falling in. But until we all look at this problem and ACT on it instead of WHINING about it, nothing will change. I wouldn't be a manager again for all the money in the world. When you become a manager you really find out who your friends are and who they are not.