How much is too much morphine?

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I had a patient on hospice last night that was receiving 0.5 mg Lorazepam and 15 mg morphine. The patient began moaning between each breath so we gave her another dose of 0.5 mg Lorazepam and 15 mg of morphine an hour later, as well as repositioned her on her side as she is a bigger lady so the lungs could expand more.

About an hour into my shift this patient continued to moan between each breath, increasing in frequency, so I called Hospice. Hospice said to continue what I was doing every hour and that they would send out a nurse. The nurse came out, evaluated the patient, and decided to continue this 15 mg of morphine every hour and bump up lorazepam to 1 mg every hour (given together diluted in water and placed slowly in the cheek).

I asked the hospice nurse if there was a limit to how much morphine should be administered on my shift, however, the hospice nurse said that the resident needs it. In total I ended up probably giving 120 mg of morphine and approximately 6 mg of lorazepam (8 hour shift). The resident was on comfort cares and has been declining over the past few weeks, and especially has been declining over the past few days. The family was there and accepting of her passing away within the next day or so.

However, at the end of my shift we repositioned the patient went into this anoxic like state while moaning much louder than before. I'm guessing this is a sign of overdose and am concerned that hospice lead me down the wrong path.

Any comments would be great...

Specializes in HH, Peds, Rehab, Clinical.

We will dissolve the lorazepam IN the liquid morphine, just a tip for you =)

As you may have already read elsewhere in this thread, it's the FIRST dose of morphine that would be considered the "overdose dose". At this point in their decline, all morphine given is for comfort and the hospice nurse is right, they need it.

I had a patient on hospice last night that was receiving 0.5 mg Lorazepam and 15 mg morphine. The patient began moaning between each breath so we gave her another dose of 0.5 mg Lorazepam and 15 mg of morphine an hour later, as well as repositioned her on her side as she is a bigger lady so the lungs could expand more.

About an hour into my shift this patient continued to moan between each breath, increasing in frequency, so I called Hospice. Hospice said to continue what I was doing every hour and that they would send out a nurse. The nurse came out, evaluated the patient, and decided to continue this 15 mg of morphine every hour and bump up lorazepam to 1 mg every hour (given together diluted in water and placed slowly in the cheek).

I asked the hospice nurse if there was a limit to how much morphine should be administered on my shift, however, the hospice nurse said that the resident needs it. In total I ended up probably giving 120 mg of morphine and approximately 6 mg of lorazepam (8 hour shift). The resident was on comfort cares and has been declining over the past few weeks, and especially has been declining over the past few days. The family was there and accepting of her passing away within the next day or so.

However, at the end of my shift we repositioned the patient went into this anoxic like state while moaning much louder than before. I'm guessing this is a sign of overdose and am concerned that hospice lead me down the wrong path.

Any comments would be great...

I work in LTC, on the rehab/short term side of the facility, which means we have hospice clients. I've yet to see one come to us with a sc port and there is no way that an invasive procedure such as this one would be done for someone on hospice status.

SC ports aren't that invasive. They're basically like insulin pumps as far as how invasive they are.

Specializes in Acute Care, Rehab, Palliative.
I work in LTC, on the rehab/short term side of the facility, which means we have hospice clients. I've yet to see one come to us with a sc port and there is no way that an invasive procedure such as this one would be done for someone on hospice status.

I don't mean a central line type port. It's just a butterfly needle you slip under the skin and anchor in place.It's not a big deal. it takes 30 seconds to put in.Then you can just connect to it when you need to give a SC injection.

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I work in LTC, on the rehab/short term side of the facility, which means we have hospice clients. I've yet to see one come to us with a sc port and there is no way that an invasive procedure such as this one would be done for someone on hospice status.

It's not an invasive procedure at all. It's something that takes about 12 seconds to place and only needs to be changed q 7 days. I've always used the insuflon brand.

Insuflon® Subcutaneous Catheter, Health Facts For You, UW Health, University of Wisconsin Hospital, Madison , UW Health, University of Wisconsin Hospital, Madison

https://www.google.com/search?q=insuflon+catheter&client=firefox-a&hs=omS&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=M_vBUpiDJMi3sATZtoHwDA&ved=0CEkQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=621

Specializes in ED.

That's more in the nursing home/long term care situation than the hospital. Lots of laws governing who can do what in LTC and there's often not an RN on at notes. LVNs are pretty restricted in their scope in a lot of places. Is that an enrolled nurse in the UK?

I am an RN in Ltc in canada and we administer dilaudid q1h and midazolam q30min both s/c for palliative care. I would never give anyone narcan at end of life. Our goal is for a comfortable pain free death.

Specializes in ED.
I work in LTC, on the rehab/short term side of the facility, which means we have hospice clients. I've yet to see one come to us with a sc port and there is no way that an invasive procedure such as this one would be done for someone on hospice status.

I work in Ltc and we put s/c sets in when we have a palliative resident. Saves them from being poked every half hour. It is not invasive. It takes less than a minute to insert.

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