How would you feel?

stashiaj · Mar 21, 2012

she actually refused to go to csections. the shift they posted recently was not for 12 hour nights, it was an 8 hour position with no other specifications. so your telling me you wouldnt be upset that they gave it to someone who has argued with both charge nurses and supervisors when she doesnt get her way? and the only reason she got it is because she is in the office complaining every day?! im not the only one who doesnt do night shift. wow thanks for the support.....you can believe what you want, but if you dont believe me then dont bother commenting on my post

I came back in this thread because this part irritates me.
Instead of taking note of the reality of the situation, you choose to make snide remarks about the nurse who got the position you didn't want.
She refuses to work day shifts. She refuses to work PM shifts. Remember, you refuse to work night shifts.
She refuses to attend c-sections? I find it hard to believe that she refuses. Maybe she's verbalized being uncomfortable, but outright refusal? Nah, not buying it.

stashiaj · Mar 21, 2012

the last shift posted was for 8 hours not 12, no other specifications. so youre telling me you wouldnt be upset that someone else got it because she is constantly going to the don whining and complaining so they just wanted to shut her up.

How would I feel?Like I may have to find better childcare options, and then I might be able to take advantage of those opportunities that others are getting and that I am having to pass up at this time of my life. And that I should be glad to have a steady job with such limited hours of availability.
How do YOU feel is the big question?

stashiaj · Mar 21, 2012

i should have specified that the posting was not for 12 hour but 8s and no other specifications. i was just making the comment that yes i am unavailable for nights but she refuses to work days or pm shifts. i told the dr to not say anything, and actually shes the one who brought it up to me.

What "situation" are you needing to handle?
As you described it, the OB positions are all 12-hour shifts so you aren't able to take them at this point in your life. You can't expect the manager to completely rearrange everything to accommodate your needs. It doesn't help to pour out sour grapes on nurses who are able to meet the requirements of those jobs despite the fact that they have less 'senority' than you. (forgive me, I'm used to a non-union environment where clinical expertise always trumps seniority)
FYI, having a physician try to exert influence on the nurse manager on your behalf will not win you any friends - and is likely to alienate the manager in question. What exactly do you expect the manager to do?

stashiaj · Mar 21, 2012

the posting was for 8 hour shifts no other specifications. not all ob positions are for 12 hours or overnights. there are ob nurses with just days, just evenings, just overnights and then theres a group with 12s. so whats the problem?? the problem is someone else got the position with way less experience just because she is constantly in the office yelling and complaining and just because she will fill the shifts with her straight over nights. you're telling me if they gave the position to someone with less experience, whom the other nurses dont like or trust because she doesnt do her job and constantly runs to the boss, you wouldnt be upset??

Let's recap:
You won't work 12 hour shifts.
You won't work overnights.
You want to work OB permanently and not be floated to med/surg.
Permanent OB positions open for 12 hour shifts, overnights.
Other nurses get those permanent OB positions that are 12-hour overnight shifts--the very shifts you won't work.
You didn't get a position for a shift that you didn't want anyway.
What is the problem?

dudette10, MSN, RN · Mar 21, 2012

she actually refused to go to csections. the shift they posted recently was not for 12 hour nights, it was an 8 hour position with no other specifications. so your telling me you wouldnt be upset that they gave it to someone who has argued with both charge nurses and supervisors when she doesnt get her way? and the only reason she got it is because she is in the office complaining every day?! im not the only one who doesnt do night shift. wow thanks for the support.....you can believe what you want, but if you dont believe me then dont bother commenting on my post

It was an 8-hour position, but, apparently, it was for nights. You can sit there and say all you want about the nurse who got the position, but your "explanation" still doesn't change the fact that you didn't get it because you refuse to work the shift.

You don't like the nurse. I get that. I probably wouldn't like her either if what you say is true. However, it doesn't change the reason why you didn't get the job, based on the facts you presented.

stashiaj · Mar 21, 2012

there was no specifications on the 8 hour posting.....it wasnt for nights. if it was for nights they should have posted it as a night position. she refuses to work days and pm shifts. i am unavailable for nights right now. it wasnt specified as a night position there for according to our contracts they are suppose to offer positions per seniority. thats why im upset. ive bent over backwards for that place, the only thing i cant and have never been able to do is overnights. maybe when the kids are older. but do you get where im comming from? the shift wasnt posted as straight nights so that shouldnt have actually affected my chances (according to our contracts) Im not really trying to be a brat, but it is very frustrating to watch others get positions when they have way less seniority. there are other nurses who dont do night shift, im not the only one. there are some that work 12s, some that work 8s straight day, straight pm, rotating. we do all kinds of stuff, im not the only one there and its not like im "being difficult" by not working nights. seriously, im only upset because they had no actual reason to chose her over me except the fact that #1 shes been complaining in their offices daily and #2 she will only do night shift. i get they need help for nights, but im mostly scheduled pm on ob anyway, the only thing that would change is i wouldnt have to go to med floor occasionally. its overwhelming when you dont feel comfortable on a floor and have to take a full assignment when you are only there once every 3-4 months maybe. Again, im not trying to be difficult, but ive been next in line for that position and have not applied when it didnt fit my schedule. this one could have fit my schedule.

It was an 8-hour position, but, apparently, it was for nights. You can sit there and say all you want about the nurse who got the position, but your "explanation" still doesn't change the fact that you didn't get it because you refuse to work the shift.
You don't like the nurse. I get that. I probably wouldn't like her either if what you say is true. However, it doesn't change the reason why you didn't get the job, based on the facts you presented.

allnurses Guide · Mar 21, 2012

Stashia - it seems as if you were looking for agreement when you asked the question "how would you feel?". One thing allnurses does not do is become a voluntary cheerleading section to bolster an opinion that isn't open to modification based on that feedback. If you feel bitter people will pick up on it. I hope you are able to reconcile your issues because the resentment will eat you up inside. Best wishes.

stashiaj · Mar 21, 2012

i wish i could edit my original post lol. the last posting was not for 12s, it was for an 8 hour position. it was not specified as a night shift position. of course my children are my priority and when they have posted positions before i have not applied if they dont fit my schedule. also im not the only nurse there that doesnt work nights or 12s. we have a bit of everything at our hospital. i am not being unreasonable or impossible. i really am just hurt that they gave it to someone else just because she complains all the time.

undoubtedly, opportunities come when you least expect them, there's a reason why you didn't get the position and you stated it yourself; you can't do 12hr. overnight-shift on account of not having a baby-sitter. unquestionably, your child should be your priority, therefore, the time will come when you're able to handle any shift, and you'll be to apply and be considered ...wishing you the very best always.....aloha~

Seas · Mar 21, 2012

No reasonable employer hires employees to shut their mouth or because they complain. Does that really make sense to you? Is it how things work in your hospital? If so, then you know what to do to get hired. lol. Things may not be as you have heard. Whoever told you this probably lied to get you to stop complaining about it.

dudette10, MSN, RN · Mar 21, 2012

You haven't provided any evidence that they aren't following seniority, per contract. You did get called back.

They chose her over you because you can't work the shift they needed a nurse for! Why are you continuing to deny that fact?

Ok, I'm done. :banghead:

BostonTerrierLover, BSN, RN · Mar 21, 2012

If the shifts not in my time range, I would not even consider it a possibility.

I don't want to come off rude, but if she put she wouldn't work days or swing shift, or that she wouldn't attend C-Sections, and they hired her, THEIR BAD! (However bizarre)

I hope that you get the position your happy with soon, but as of now, NO GROUND TO STAND ON.

MomRN0913 · Mar 21, 2012

I don't get it. The position what was available was 12 hour nights. That was what need to be filled. It seems that there are no open spots on days.

Hospital positions are identified not only by the unit, but their shifts to cover a census.

Yes, you could have gotten the position if you were willing to work what the position was open for: nights.

It's not as if some young nurse was chosen over you, she was able to work the shift that needed to be filled, and you couldn't.

I do hope a shift that is workable for you opens up soon, i am sure they wouldn't hesitate to to hire you for a shift you could work if it was what the unit needed.