I went to this hospital in Boston to see a friend of mine who just had a baby. In the room, there were 2 nurses talking and they had the tag on them that indicated that they were RNs.
They had a heavy accent and probably from Africa, they were speaking French between them for some reason. So my friend was out for a test and I was sitting in this chair in the room, I asked them where they were from and how long they have been in the states, etc.
I swear to god, I was not able to understand their responses. I mean, one of them have been in the US for over 10 years and I had to ask 3 times to understand what she was saying.
She saw me having hard time understanding, she pulled a piece of paper from her pocket and wrote down what she meant. This is what she wrote (remember she is a RN)
Piliiz tel your frenid to full the form after she cames
Now, I can understand having an accent, but I mean how do these people pass NCLEX with this level of English?
Maybe NCLEX used to be much easier 10 years ago?
How does the US Govt allow all these foreign workers when thousands of nurses are unemployed? Or maybe there is abig nurse shortage that we can not see with our eyese? I am reading in other forums that lot of American nurses are working for less than $20/hr.
Reap what you Sow. The Nursing Unions and there lobby arm has been using the "Nusing Shortage" alarm to lobby congress and the president to increase $$ for education and also hammer this idea of low supply and high demand to lobby for higher wages.
What the Unions should know, is that Hospitals have there own lobby group and they in turn use the Nurses own admission of a shortage to increase work visas.
The Philippines (a Nurse factory) whole program is set around the idea of working outside of there country. With The US being there #1 destination.
More than Half-a-Million ready to come and take your Job at any given point.
The whole point about "making America more competitive" as pushed by Obama
is a mute point. The whole world has access to the same books MIT, Harvard etc uses. They send people to get the Doctorates here and then go back and teach our own programs in there own countries; making a educational advantage a pipe dream. Other countries copy our Nursing program to the T
making no distinction between your self and them other than an "accent"
Welcome to the new reality
Illegal Immigration taking non education skilled jobs from the bottom and foreign American style education skilled labor from the Top and us Americans getting squeezed in the middle.
I don't understand what you are saying here but would be interested to see actual data to support these claims.
so theoretically if all those visas get taken by foreign rns quoting "shortage" that means 20,000 less jobs for americans nurses looking for a job in these tough economic times
If there are many American nurses unemployed and many many nurses are working for sub $20/hr, then how come foreigners are let in the country?
This is the main question.
Either, people who say "there is a huge nurse shortage in the US" are lying, or the nurses in this board saying "we can not find a job" or "even if we find a job they pay much less than what we expect" are lying.
I sincerely understand that is very hard for you to see.
1. Because they have an accent they are not considered American.
2. Because they are black with an accent they are assumed to be from Africa.
3. Because they have an accent, they are unable to speak Standard English.
4. Because they are black, with an accent and knowledge of a second language, they are not American. Therefore they do not deserve their job. The white girl who is unable to speak a second language and says she is Amercan should have gotten the job instead. Even though she didnt apply for it.
I suppose the next step is to demand a birth certificate.
I believe someone has an axe to grind. Since I don't want it to be on me, I think I will respectfully disagree. I do appreciate your perspective.
She saw me having hard time understanding, she pulled a piece of paper from her pocket and wrote down what she meant. This is what she wrote (remember she is a RN)
Piliiz tel your frenid to full the form after she cames
Seriously people, does anybody believe this?
First time post by someone who joined AN today, on a highly inflammatory topic = RED FLAG
Please don't feed the trolls! (there seems to be an awful lot of them today -- I suspect bored students out for the summer having nothing better to do with their time).
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I sincerely understand that is very hard for you to see.
1. Because they have an accent they are not considered American.
2. Because they are black with an accent they are assumed to be from Africa.
3. Because they have an accent, they are unable to speak Standard English.
4. Because they are black, with an accent and knowledge of a second language, they are not American. Therefore they do not deserve their job. The white girl who is unable to speak a second language and says she is Amercan should have gotten the job instead. Even though she didnt apply for it.
I suppose the next step is to demand a birth certificate.
I realize this is a sensitive subject but there are other threads that addresses other imported nurses being brought in for lower rates of pay and being used by these nursing "agencies" that make nurses sign contracts with them for specified amounts of time or they get deported. Which boils down to nothing but indendured workers. These nurses are paid WAY under scale and are given specific "subsidized" housing, assisted (given) their VISAS just to be sponsored to come here......it is indentured paid slavery. I KNOW this happends, although it usually is the Phillipines, that bring these girls here, sponsers them, pays them very little and deports them if they don't behave.
BUt we need to keep this on task and not get into name calling and fighting which is against the terms of service of this site and they will close it down and I think this is a good topic......((HUGS))
Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
Seriously people, does anybody believe this?
First time post by someone who joined AN today, on a highly inflammatory topic = RED FLAG
Please don't feed the trolls! (there seems to be an awful lot of them today -- I suspect bored students out for the summer having nothing better to do with their time).
:yeah::yeah::yeah: SCHOOLS OUT FOR SUMMER!!!!!!!!!
I joined the forum to tell everybody about an incident that will be interest to all nurses looking for a job
I am not in the medical field but I myself am employed and I believe medical and any other fields should not be flooded with foreigners at a time when unemployment is high. really high.
You are indeed accusing a concerned citizen not a troll for sure.
First time post by someone who joined AN today, on a highly inflammatory topic = RED FLAG
Please don't feed the trolls! (there seems to be an awful lot of them today -- I suspect bored students out for the summer having nothing better to do with their time).
You are so right!! I almost never look at join date, but I will in the future.
Thanks for pointing this out. Nobody's pushing my buttons today.
I also find it very interesting that the argument that foreign nurses are here to "take our jobs" is used so often. Are you really telling me that you are so insecure in your skills that you are unable to compete at the international level? That you need de facto or dejure hiring discrimination to be successfull?
Maybe then we should push for a revolution in the American education system; resulting in world class professional classwho know that they can compete any day of the week against any other country, in any profession.
I hardly think that an ethnic nurse who has been in the country for 10 years is responsible for all the "foreign nurses finding jobs". She either has been a nurse for over 10 years (educated in her home country) and still had to pass the NCLEX or was educated in the US and still had to pass the NCLEX.
Either way, there was a nursing shortage 10 years ago. What's your beef with her having a job now?
:yeah:
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I don't understand what you are saying here but would be interested to see actual data to support these claims.