:cry::cry:a student has had a behavior problem in clinicals and although this student gets good grades in theory the faculty is still out on how to deal with this student. if you were a faculty member what would suggest for this student. the student does not have a pattern of behavior problem before this whole mess and is not a known offender. the student's problem is not with patients but rather with mishaps within the clinical setting.
i feel that a student should first be given a second chance to reform and show that the student is capable of reforming the student's ways. i believe that a verbal and written warning be first given before serious disciplinary action, such as dismissal or suspension from the program.
has anyone else had this situation familiar to them and how was this handled. i feel that students should be helped not punished for lapses of judgement.
Specializes in med/surg, telemetry, IV therapy, mgmt.
(1) Why is another student being asked how to deal with another student's behavioral problem? I was a supervisor and manager for some years and I would never ask another staff member how to discipline another staff member. That is just bizarre. I had a whole set of rules to guide me on how to deal with wrongdoing.
(2) Stay out of the situation if you are not this student. You do not have all the information except what the student has told you and you have no way of knowing that it is truthful. People lie because they are in denial. The instructors on the other hand must maintain the confidentiality of the student and are not going to reveal the confidential evidence they have to you or anyone else except the student involved which gives the student involved good reason to lie to defend their character--they know they won't be challenged--and to generate sympathy for themselves. Where there is smoke there is fire, so I repeat, stay out of this or you will end up being a different kind of victim.
This looks to me like it boils down to very, very petty things:
1. The student mentioned she was stressed with upcoming finals...so what? She wasn't bashing anyone.
2. She left the nurses station...did she KNOW she wasn't supposed to leave the nurses station? Students at my school are not allowed to get into the nurses station at all....a student cannot expect to know this unless he/she was told.
3. If the CNA said that the student refused to help, but the student said that the CNA refused assistance...this falls into he said/she said. I wouldn't be so quick to believe the CNA.
Sounds like someone doesn't have enough to do in the day if some instructor dismissed a student for any or even ALL of these infractions, unless there is a side we are not getting here.
either way this topic is incredibly confusing. I thought this was the instructor speaking, and wondered why it was in the student forum. maybe it was posted here by mistake?
i apologize for confusing some of you, but the true story is what i described in my previous post. it involves talking in class which in defense is trying to discuss the subject matter with other students and which is not out of the ordinary yet the student is the only one being persecuted for doing so, expressing stress over exams, an incident where a CNA reported the student for not doing her job for her when in fact the CNA refused the student's help, and the thing with the nurses' station. :crying2:
I guess I still dont understand the issue. All this sounds like extremely nit picky things that can be dealt with in class with a simple, could you be quiet please right now. If anything, just ask them if they have any questions so that the student doesnt need to be talking in class to clarify things. This situation happened to me and the teacher threatened to lower my grade a whole letter grade because I was doing the same thing because the teacher was not willing to answer the students questions. There could be a very simple, polite solution or you could blow it out of proportion like my instructor did.
:cry::cry:a student has had a behavior problem in clinicals and although this student gets good grades in theory the faculty is still out on how to deal with this student. if you were a faculty member what would suggest for this student. the student does not have a pattern of behavior problem before this whole mess and is not a known offender. the student's problem is not with patients but rather with mishaps within the clinical setting.
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fiveofpeep
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as a student, I just wanted to thank you for wanting to help your students instead of penalizing them only. :)