I am a recent BSN grad, with prior BS in Biology in 2000. I graduated from my college in May 2010 with 3.5 GPA and departmental honors. Have applied to Vet Admin and they responded that they got my resume but nothing else. Have applied to many other facilities and have received either no response or been told no available positions for new grads. Like many, I have spent a good deal of money getting through the program and now have no income and may become homeless if this drags on much longer. I am contemplating suing my college. We were informed in our last semester of school in an off-handed way by one professor that it costs $22,000 to train a new RN. i still have my notes from this class and it is right there in black and white. (In fact it was a test question on the first exam, so it must have been important information). Yet the college itself never informed us in a timely fashion about this. I remember when the teacher told us this info in class we all looked at each other in horror, knowing full well what this meant. As it stands now, of my graduating class of 47 students only about 10% have found positions and are working. Of those, all of them either had worked at the facility as a CNA during school or had parents who already worked there.
I have spoken to an attorney about this potential lawsuit and he claims it would go nowhere because colleges are not required to provide such info about costs of hiring on the other end. I don't believe this. And just because it has never happened in the past, that they are required, does not mean that it should not be required. That is what legal precedents are for. To establish things in law that have not been established before. I feel that, if the cost of hiring was important enough to put on an exam, then it should have been important enough for either nursing or university admin to provide us with up-front. Colleges do financial planning way in advance and do not wait til the last minute to figure out how much financial aide they can anticipate, how many students, etc. No one can tell me that the college was unaware of problems re: nurses getting hired.
I feel that colleges should properly DISCLOSE information to students that is relevant to their continuing in the program. Appropriate disclosure is something that everyone does by law. Why are colleges and universities exempt? Had we known this info as soon as possible at least some of us might have elected to either postpone nursing or find another career. The particular college I graduated from runs about $15,000 per semester for a full course load. That is $120,000 for a full 4 years. This, of course, is very good for the school in that they get loads of tuition money and get to keep THEIR JOBS. I would be interested to get some feedback from others on this forum. Most of the people I have talked to about this seem terrified to even approach the subject. I guess we are all so conditioned to think well of our schools or perhaps, by conditioning, we are all afraid to speak out.
I am absolutely stunned to find out how many very vicious people are on this forum. I have been signed on as a reader to this forum since 2009. I am getting responses from people that are extremely rude. Spelling out recession for me is an insult. I am a very educated person, who speaks two languages besides English and who has traveled extensively in Third World countries. How much life experience and education do you have to speak to me in such a way? How dare you? I am certainly aware of economic conditions, perhaps more than you. When my landlord comes to evict me because I cannot pay my rent, perhaps I should spell recession for him? In any event, since I assume that all of you are already nurses, your vicious response to my post (although there were some compassionate individuals, for which I am grateful) has made me very afraid to begin work in the profession if this is what all of you are really like. As far as lawsuits go, for better or worse, that is how changes are made in this country. People will only sit up and pay attention when it is going to cost them something. I am signing off now. I will not be back. I used to recommend this website to all my colleagues for the latest information and the kind help from other nurses. What I have received today has completely shocked me. If you are this ready to verbally attack a total stranger, then how are you with coworkers and, God forbid, patients?
Although I sympathize with your situation, both the job and the rude comments. If you want to hang around here and actually post things you have to develop a tougher skin. I learned that the hard way, as have many others I assume. Good luck with your job search.
What does one expect a school to do??? I did not expect mine to do anything for me? They never promised work placement or any type of assistance. Once i wrote that final exam, I was out,lol I guess it would be a different story if they promised one a job, but thats usually not the case!
I actually laughed out loud when I read the subject of this thread. Why don't you try getting some finance majors on board, maybe you could get a class action suit going.
A high GPA may mean one is book smart...however, I am a firm believer that you need practical and social smarts (as well) to survive in this field. I know many nurses that were 4.0, and have the social graces of a rock.
Why are people in this day in age so "suit happy??" I say save your money and keep looking...you may have to take something you don't particularly want to do, and consider it a stepping stone. Experience is experience. Good luck!
Specializes in Cardiac Telemetry, Emergency, SAFE.
Tankweti,
Can you enlighten us as to any agreement you made with your school? I am honestly curious if there is an agreement. Its the only reason i can see as feasible for bringing a lawsuit to the school. They are responsible for educating you and thats what they did...You can be licensed as an RN, is that not what they were supposed to do? Im not sure what else you expect and also why you feel this is the right choice of action for you (to sue).
Also, if the school had informed you earlier that an RN orientee costs $22K to train, would you have changed your mind and switched majors? What would you have majored in then? Once you figure that out, look for jobs in that field also, then find a similar message board to Allnurses but with your 2nd choice of career....Are there job openings there? Are posters there also having issues?
I think maybe you should realize that EVERYONE, not just nurse grads, are in the same boat. What do you feel you would accomplish by suing the college?
I am a recent BSN grad, with prior BS in Biology in 2000. I graduated from my college in May 2010 with 3.5 GPA and departmental honors. Have applied to Vet Admin and they responded that they got my resume but nothing else. Have applied to many other facilities and have received either no response or been told no available positions for new grads. Like many, I have spent a good deal of money getting through the program and now have no income and may become homeless if this drags on much longer. I am contemplating suing my college. We were informed in our last semester of school in an off-handed way by one professor that it costs $22,000 to train a new RN. i still have my notes from this class and it is right there in black and white. (In fact it was a test question on the first exam, so it must have been important information). Yet the college itself never informed us in a timely fashion about this. I remember when the teacher told us this info in class we all looked at each other in horror, knowing full well what this meant. As it stands now, of my graduating class of 47 students only about 10% have found positions and are working. Of those, all of them either had worked at the facility as a CNA during school or had parents who already worked there.
I have spoken to an attorney about this potential lawsuit and he claims it would go nowhere because colleges are not required to provide such info about costs of hiring on the other end. I don't believe this. And just because it has never happened in the past, that they are required, does not mean that it should not be required. That is what legal precedents are for. To establish things in law that have not been established before. I feel that, if the cost of hiring was important enough to put on an exam, then it should have been important enough for either nursing or university admin to provide us with up-front. Colleges do financial planning way in advance and do not wait til the last minute to figure out how much financial aide they can anticipate, how many students, etc. No one can tell me that the college was unaware of problems re: nurses getting hired.
I feel that colleges should properly DISCLOSE information to students that is relevant to their continuing in the program. Appropriate disclosure is something that everyone does by law. Why are colleges and universities exempt? Had we known this info as soon as possible at least some of us might have elected to either postpone nursing or find another career. The particular college I graduated from runs about $15,000 per semester for a full course load. That is $120,000 for a full 4 years. This, of course, is very good for the school in that they get loads of tuition money and get to keep THEIR JOBS. I would be interested to get some feedback from others on this forum. Most of the people I have talked to about this seem terrified to even approach the subject. I guess we are all so conditioned to think well of our schools or perhaps, by conditioning, we are all afraid to speak out.
The college is an institution of learning, not a guaranteed-or-your-money-back employment agency.
If you'd thought that your school was legally obligated to find you a job in your field, you were badly misinformed. Its job was to provide you with an education, or (more precisely) the opportunity for you to earn an education and (in many cases) a degree. Once you graduate, their job is done. Now it's YOUR job to focus on getting yourself hired in the position you want.
You could probably do a better job with the latter, if you focused on resumes and interviews, rather than blaming the college. Just a thought.....
the lawyer was correct. your school did not violate any laws. they are responsible for your education, not your employment. you can only set a "legal precedent" if there is a law that was violated and a legal basis to sue, that's not how it works. what you heard at school is the reality of employers' costs to train new employees. there are many grads and experienced nurses who have to face this harsh reality in this economy. it is truly a human toll with many like you suffering. I will keep you in my prayers...:redpinkhe
I am a recent BSN grad, with prior BS in Biology in 2000. I graduated from my college in May 2010 with 3.5 GPA and departmental honors. Have applied to Vet Admin and they responded that they got my resume but nothing else. Have applied to many other facilities and have received either no response or been told no available positions for new grads. Like many, I have spent a good deal of money getting through the program and now have no income and may become homeless if this drags on much longer. I am contemplating suing my college. We were informed in our last semester of school in an off-handed way by one professor that it costs $22,000 to train a new RN. i still have my notes from this class and it is right there in black and white. (In fact it was a test question on the first exam, so it must have been important information). Yet the college itself never informed us in a timely fashion about this. I remember when the teacher told us this info in class we all looked at each other in horror, knowing full well what this meant. As it stands now, of my graduating class of 47 students only about 10% have found positions and are working. Of those, all of them either had worked at the facility as a CNA during school or had parents who already worked there.
I have spoken to an attorney about this potential lawsuit and he claims it would go nowhere because colleges are not required to provide such info about costs of hiring on the other end. I don't believe this. And just because it has never happened in the past, that they are required, does not mean that it should not be required. That is what legal precedents are for. To establish things in law that have not been established before. I feel that, if the cost of hiring was important enough to put on an exam, then it should have been important enough for either nursing or university admin to provide us with up-front. Colleges do financial planning way in advance and do not wait til the last minute to figure out how much financial aide they can anticipate, how many students, etc. No one can tell me that the college was unaware of problems re: nurses getting hired.
I feel that colleges should properly DISCLOSE information to students that is relevant to their continuing in the program. Appropriate disclosure is something that everyone does by law. Why are colleges and universities exempt? Had we known this info as soon as possible at least some of us might have elected to either postpone nursing or find another career. The particular college I graduated from runs about $15,000 per semester for a full course load. That is $120,000 for a full 4 years. This, of course, is very good for the school in that they get loads of tuition money and get to keep THEIR JOBS. I would be interested to get some feedback from others on this forum. Most of the people I have talked to about this seem terrified to even approach the subject. I guess we are all so conditioned to think well of our schools or perhaps, by conditioning, we are all afraid to speak out.
GoodLuck suing your school. If you want a job, move and find one.
really? my BF is a new grad June 2010, and yes! after the graduation he got the job right away, he had his 2 weeks class lecture paid. and oh yeah after 3 weeks he passed his nclex and now training in ER. and also he just got a call from a nursing homes that he can work part time there as well and will try to work with his schedule... i thought that was easy, and as far as i know you will never run out of job in nursing.i also have 2 jobs currently and i keep on changing jobs, so far consistently i have 2 working jobs if i dont like the latter. where you from and why is it that hard to get a job.
Maybe if you focus your energy on searching for employment and take into consideration that most things in life never go exactly as you planned. Yes, it would be nice to have employers lined up to hire you, but it just is not happening in this economy. I wish you well on your new endeavor.
I say save your money and keep looking...you may have to take something you don't particularly want to do, and consider it a stepping stone. Experience is experience. Good luck!
latebloomer74, LPN
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Although I sympathize with your situation, both the job and the rude comments. If you want to hang around here and actually post things you have to develop a tougher skin. I learned that the hard way, as have many others I assume. Good luck with your job search.