This is just a rant....but you tell a prospective employer you were terminated to be HONEST and trustworthy to them....and then it BACKFIRES like microwaving a dead frozen rat for your pet snake......
I basically have to do a whole brand new career because no hospital will take me.... Will nursing EVER improve? All these characteristics about being empathetic, caring, devotion, commitment, helping other etc etc ALL BS. Because if your not that $paying$ customer, not patient, CUSTOMER, (who mind you has all the power to make or break your facility's reimbursement through HCAPS or your job security) you mean nothing.
Pfff....I am just real ticked off... thats all.............
Specializes in ED, Cardiac-step down, tele, med surg.
I think in some cases it will be how you present the situation. For one, you can not use them as a reference. Just check the no box on the application. If you get an interview you can explain that the job wasn't a good fit, personality clashes, miscommunication, etc. Just never say anything bad about a prior employer. Also, your employer is prevented to say certain things about you or else they could be sued for slander. Usually all they can say is the time you worked there and if you are eligible for rehire. Anyway, if it was me, I would try to patch things up with the employer, maybe not the manager if that was the issue but go above them so that the actual employer can't give you a bad reference.
Specializes in Complex pedi to LTC/SA & now a manager.
Perhaps it differs from state to state, because it's LAW in Texas, they can only ask specific "yes" or "no" questions, such as "Did The Real Nurse Jackie work for your company as an RN from this day to this day?", "Is she eligible for rehire".. The can ask professional REFERENCES other questions, but not the employer.
Interesting could you please post a link to a source? It would be interesting to read the wording of such a law.
It seems an employer can release any truthful information, especially if a release of information is signed by the former employee. The employers are protected from civil liability if the information is truthful and factual. (Nurse Jackie failed a drug test on 7/31/14 and was terminated on. 8/1/14 and is ineligible for rehire indefinitely vs Nurse Jackie was fired for being a drug addict. We don't keep druggies on the payroll. The former is factual the latter is opinionated.
Whatever the case may be....all I know is that people talk and it is a VERY VERY small world. Especially in South FL, so one way or another, IF this past employer wished to bad mouth me, they could on the street and gossip about it "off work grounds". But I am keeping my head up and just working on my BSN meantime until something comes around...:)
Specializes in Complex pedi to LTC/SA & now a manager.
Whatever the case may be....all I know is that people talk and it is a VERY VERY small world. Especially in South FL, so one way or another, IF this past employer wished to bad mouth me, they could on the street and gossip about it "off work grounds". But I am keeping my head up and just working on my BSN meantime until something comes around...:)
Exactly. Nursing is a small world.
One day at a time, it's much easier to walk forward looking up than always checking to see what's behind you ( plus looking backward you might miss an opportunity right in front of you or worse...walk smack into a tree!). Good luck.
Thanks, I am definitely looking into those hospitals once I endorse my license in a few weeks. The only damn thing is that I have t save up to relocate there if I do get a job.......there are no new grad relocation programs anywhere in the US
They provide mobile homes for travel nurses on some reservations and could do it for you as well. In remote places housing is free or very reasonable for medical professionals.
It always amazes me what people do for me as a travel nurse if I ask nicely. Something like "can you help me find affordable housing?"
I have heard of travel nurses who stay on the "rez" for years. It is has it challenges for sure, alcoholism and uncontrolled diabetes, obesity, unhealthy diet and the native Americans will not trust you at all at first. Some nurses leave because they feel socially isolated. I would love to try it myself someday. It sound like a challenge and an adventure. and the jewelry is very cool.
Specializes in Just starting out in a Nursing Home..
You are absolutely right, they most definitely can find out why. Which makes things even harder :/
Uhm..if I can venture the question..and it is none of my business, is the reason terribly bad? I mean if you still hold your licence it could not of been horrifying..hmm..I would if I where you and trying to get a new job, be honest with the interviewer, tell them what happened or don't use that job as a ref. There are always two sides to a story.
It was real real stupid. Nothing to do with the patient directly, patient safety, med error, etc etc. Just real dumb. I could go through the hell of explaining it but I feel it is too long and they will lose attention span to it. At this point I just don't put it on the application or my resume. It hasn't helped me at all to mention them.
Specializes in Just starting out in a Nursing Home..
Well than I say just erase the bad experience from your cranium, learn from it. Good luck to you, I know it is not always easy to find a good fit in the healthcare field and ya just have to go thru the motions until you come upon a place and it feels right for you;) Best Wishes..
Specializes in Just starting out in a Nursing Home..
The problem is that you are in South Florida and maybe people don't get you. If you really want a job as an RN here a few places that will hire you without experience or a not so great work history:
Just about any hospital near the Canadian border( these are very nice gigs), Roy L Scheider Hosp St Thomas USVI and Juan Luis Hospital St Croix USVI, Cape Fear Valley in Fayetteville NC, any hospital in Las Vegas, El Paso TX, Civista in Leonardtown, Southern Md. All of these places are wicked tough places to work, the wages are low, no one stays there very long but they are hiring and may even be slightly better than south FL. The Bayada pediatric home health program is always looking for peds trach nurses and they provide training. Genesis rehab, really ridiculous ratios, low standards, but they're hiring. Now you only have to suffer for a year without being confrontational, staying off the management radar and then you will be employable and you can look into travel nursing. That's if you can relocate. Bring running shoes and malpractice insurance. If any of these locations appeal to your sense of adventure write to me for more info.
You are intelligent and totally hilarious. Keep writing.
I recognise some of the places that you say will hire right off the bat and have funky ratio's. I will say this..when the employee turn over is rediculously high..you say to yoursef is it newbee's who said.."this stinks" or is it the place or..hmmm..anyways..I myself am sticking out facility work because I would like to be a traveling nurse someday and the agency I work for in my second job said they want you to have a years worth of facility work before they will send you a traveling and most of the good assignments are in facilities if you want to travel nurse...hmmm..so I suck it upppp...
Some facilities are so unsafe that they are staffed mainly by travel nurses. For example, a lot of Canadians get their first job in the US in a for profit hospital chain in Las Vegas. 12 to one ratio. One working blood glucose meter for all of the inpatient units. Nurses in tears by the time clock every single shift . Your license and your livelihood is in jeopardy every single night and anyone in their right mind would say I'm outta here.
If I had no other options, or if I was desperate to establish a work history in the US, like our Canadian sisters, I would buck up and do it. At this point in my career, I would not. No HCA, no Kaiser Exterminente, no Tenet and no CHS. These for profits are miserable and dangerous places for patients and nurses.
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I think in some cases it will be how you present the situation. For one, you can not use them as a reference. Just check the no box on the application. If you get an interview you can explain that the job wasn't a good fit, personality clashes, miscommunication, etc. Just never say anything bad about a prior employer. Also, your employer is prevented to say certain things about you or else they could be sued for slander. Usually all they can say is the time you worked there and if you are eligible for rehire. Anyway, if it was me, I would try to patch things up with the employer, maybe not the manager if that was the issue but go above them so that the actual employer can't give you a bad reference.