Just curious... how many of you actually seek out collaboration with MDs?
I mean not because you have to, but because you like to. To actually have fruitful troubleshooting sessions re: patient DX, in which you are able to chime in with your take on the situation etc. Or are your experiences more on the side of... It's a necessary evil, and here comes "clueless" once again, I wish he/she could appreciate a bit of new knowledge offered free of charge from an RN? If this last part is more like your experience, what wierd/funny exhanges have you had when you've tried to enlighten or prevent catastrophe?
I am hoping to elicit some humorous posts too... today, the board is too depressing
Specializes in Medsurg/ICU, Mental Health, Home Health.
I don't relish calling any physician in the middle of the night (especially a...select few) but I love collaborating with the vast majority of doctors. I was a tech in PACU/Same day surgery, where nurses and docs had to work together for the sake of the patients, so it comes fairly easily to me.
It's easy to question a physician without being disrespectful. I'm not saying we should be respectful of them because of their title, but because they're people and members of our team. And most physicians are open to suggestions from nurses, especially if there's evidence to back up the suggestions. If the doctor doesn't agree, the suggestion isn't put in place. No harm, no foul.
That's seems to be a dim view of some very fine people who work long hours, after putting in years and years getting educated.
I guess I don't get the whole doctors are our adversaries point of view. In my nursing career I've had a lot more trouble dished out by CNAs and nurses than doctors.
About "the Dark Side"... clarification, I guess I really am old huh? or it's my corporate background too. This is just a phrase commonly used (maybe it's from star wars originally? IDK) that refers to maybe... management, or ... those who are separate from you that have lots of power... say, someone who you used to work with that goes suddenly into upper management, or to that competitor corp... etc. etc. is said to have gone to the Dark Side. No religious implications... or what ever else is to be read into it.
Again... don't look for the worst. :wink2: The sun is shining it's a happy day!
Specializes in trauma, ortho, burns, plastic surgery.
Agree, agree, totally agree. For me, is just a personal experince, MDs colaboration is just ok, much more troubles could give you some CNAs or nurses.
And I could tell you why... CNAs just SOME of them, because they belive that deserve more and receive less and are very frusteated with this situation, and nurses belived the same, some time..... the crown of their priniciar position, lol, was came directly with their born and they deserve it and any others opinion they perceive it like "Lèse majesté" . Damn it gurls we are in US!
Helloooooooo...is US here, to wearing a crown my dears go in another place, looool :lol2:
About "the Dark Side"... clarification, I guess I really am old huh? or it's my corporate background too. This is just a phrase commonly used (maybe it's from star wars originally? IDK) that refers to maybe... management, or ... those who are separate from you that have lots of power... say, someone who you used to work with that goes suddenly into upper management, or to that competitor corp... etc. etc. is said to have gone to the Dark Side. No religious implications... or what ever else is to be read into it.
Again... don't look for the worst. :wink2: The sun is shining it's a happy day!
If you don't want people to look for the worst, then maybe it would have been better to phrase your title "Collaborating with Physicians" or "Do physicians value your input?" instead of implying in your title that they are aligned with the forces of evil.
Politics is rampant in hospitals, and this is where you have to be careful. There are physicians that appreciate the discussion and those that don't care for the RN's input.
I think it makes us look childish when we talk like that. We're all adults, if we talk and act that way around physicians, then we'll get taken more seriously. If we talk and act like they are authority figures from the other side of the moon, then it will tend to devalue us professionally, and others in the healthcare team will take us less seriously.
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Penelope_Pitstop, BSN, RN
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I don't relish calling any physician in the middle of the night (especially a...select few) but I love collaborating with the vast majority of doctors. I was a tech in PACU/Same day surgery, where nurses and docs had to work together for the sake of the patients, so it comes fairly easily to me.
It's easy to question a physician without being disrespectful. I'm not saying we should be respectful of them because of their title, but because they're people and members of our team. And most physicians are open to suggestions from nurses, especially if there's evidence to back up the suggestions. If the doctor doesn't agree, the suggestion isn't put in place. No harm, no foul.