Is my rage justified. My friend just flunked out of her first semester at Charity with a 76 average. 77 is the cut. The failing question (and I don't know it word for word, but here is the general gist of it): An african woman who lives in Africa has an intestinal bug. She believes that by eating pumpkin seeds, the bug will be eliminated. Is this a : religious belief, a cultural belief, is she correct, and few other choices. My friend answered, a cultural belief. As per the teacher: WRONG. First of all, regardless of the question or answer, how is this question even relevant to Nursing? Upon doing her homework and research, she could prove it very much IS a cultural thing. She appealed the question. The woman who wrote the question refused to budge and the committee sided with her. So boom. My freind is out. Never mind she is an excellent student. I am outraged. 44 people apparently missed that stupid, trick, unfair, irrelevant question. When teachers result to trickery on exams, it is so unfair and the students will never win. What can be done about this? This is a power issue and the teacher is getting off on it. People like that have got to go. I am beginning Charity in January. If I wasn't sufficiently terrified before, I certainly am now. Feedback, please.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the question did not include the details you mentioned. The information given WAS sufficient for choosing the correct answer. You cannot read into the questions!!
I double-checked w/another student since the final was 100 Qs long and I didn't specifically remember this one. NOLA1980 is dead on - there was enough info in the Q to pick the correct answer. I appreciated the passion but this "outrage" is misplaced.
Nursel56 - too much time on your hands? I'm a student nurse - what's that?
I double-checked w/another student since the final was 100 Qs long and I didn't specifically remember this one. NOLA1980 is dead on - there was enough info in the Q to pick the correct answer.
More double-checking (i.e. checking with smarter students w/better memories:lol2:): the 2 choices listed by the OP are both incorrect and the info listed as being in the Q is incorrect. The correct answer was a MORE obvious answer.
More double-checking (i.e. checking with smarter students w/better memories:lol2:): the 2 choices listed by the OP are both incorrect and the info listed as being in the Q is incorrect. The correct answer was a MORE obvious answer.
Please humour me and give us the question in its original form? Pretty please :)
LOL! Wish I could! But we are relying on the collective memories of a bunch of frazzled students. Also, am not sure of the ethics of repeating a test question here. Will have to ask if I can do so. After this past semester, I would hate to get tossed on a technicality like that!!!
LOL! Wish I could! But we are relying on the collective memories of a bunch of frazzled students. Also, am not sure of the ethics of repeating a test question here. Will have to ask if I can do so. After this past semester, I would hate to get tossed on a technicality like that!!!
Tell you what, I'll give you one of mine if you give me one of yours....
Tell you what, I'll give you one of mine if you give me one of yours....
This whole conversation reminds me of the way we talk about relatives - my brother (sister) and his (her) wife (husband) are such incredibly incompetent parents! How in the world did they raise such great kids???
These instructors are so incompetent/power-mad/whatever! How in the world did that school have a 95% pass rate on the NCLEX last year? Thank goodness we students are there to set them straight!
My ultimate wonder....is there pumpkins in Africa?
We're all pumpkins here, love....
Yes, I presume one of the settler groups brought seeds over with them. "Boerepampoen" (farmstyle pumpkin) is very popular; cooked with butter, sugar and cinnamon. As far as I know, the only gourd indigenous to Africa is the calabash, but there may be other smaller varieties of squash that originated here.
"...many academically challenged students are excellent students" ?
That is, anyone who is a C student is academically challenged (or poor student); as opposed to being academically average (B or fair student) or academically superior (A or excellent student). Since in the OP's discussion, the friend's academic life's continued existence was entirely dependent on the success or failure of answering one question; again, my assessment of her being one question from failure is also factually correct.
The kudos are handed out like hotcakes in this thread. But I VERY much agree with Emergency RN. If you make a C, you know a C amount of material. As mean as this sounds and this doesn't necessarily apply to everyone, but there should be none of this "I'm great in the hospital, I'm great with patients, I just don't get what they talk about in lecture"..what are you great at?!?!?! If you don't know the lecture material about CHF, Diabetes, Renal failure, etc..then what are you good at in the hospital? If you don't know the knowledge, you can't apply it to the real world..it's like painting with no paint. Maybe you're good at talking to people, putting in a foley, or some other skill, but that's not nursing. Nurses aren't just pill passer people talkers. You have to interpret labs, look at trends in your patient's numbers, anticipate what's coming next. And this whole complaint of "there's more than 1 right answer on our test!" Well the real life isn't a textbook, so when your patient throws you a curve or you have many options that can come next, go get mad and whine to them after they died. My next point is what everyone else said, your friend was doing poorly WAY before that 1 question. Based on having a 76 and needing a 77 on a final grade, they would have STILL failed even if they got that 1 question right. 1 question on a final won't raise you a whole percentage point usually.
I happen to be a C student, academically challenged and I have been told by my instructors that I am a good student...just some area's I struggle with.
I have an A average in certain courses and a C in others...not because Im a poor student but because I am academically challenged.
That sounds like an oxymoron, aren't being a poor student and academically challenged basically the same thing?
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It's OK -- the state forums always have fewer viewers which might be why she posted in both places and maybe I have too much time on my hands :).