Nurses with ADD/ADHD? - page 6
Hey all! I was wondering if there are any nurses with ADD/ADHD out there who want to comiserate and support each other? I know I need the help/advice. It might also be a place for "regular" people... Read More
Dec 13, '05Occupation: RN/LMFT Specialty: 7 year(s) of experience ; From: US ; Joined: Nov '03; Posts: 3,081; Likes: 233Quote from BipleyIt looks like it is similar to an MAOI, an antidepressant involved with inhibiting monoamine oxidase reception, except some of the sites I found said it was first in a new class of antidepressants because it is selective in which of the MAO's it inhibited and something about its being "reversible."What is Mannerix? I don't believe I have ever heard of this product before.
I do have the hyperactivity component. I'm like a little kid sitting through a boring movie with Mom. I have to fidget, twirl my hair, click my nails on a table (wayyyyy annoying to the rest of humanity!), swing my leg, SOMETHING. If I don't move something ALL the time I'm just sure I'll explode. If someone forced me to sit on my hands while I speak, I don't believe I could utter a word. I'd likely sound like a wild animal locked in a small cage.
Thank goodness for amphetamines. I can finally relax!!!!!
Anyway, it appears to be available only in Canada.
Here's a place you can get some general info (I just googled for it):
Dec 15, '05Specialty: Med-surg > LTC > HH > ; From: US ; Joined: Sep '04; Posts: 386; Likes: 60Quote from NitecapWow I love this forum. I feel like I have finally found my family after being put up for adoption..... I am curremtly working with 2 different docs and have been diagnosed for ADHD. I have had this since I was a child, although I don't think they had a diagnosis for it then. I think it is getting worse as I'm getting older. Or maybe I'm just less able to deal with it since I'm getting older(I'm 36). I have always been loud, unable to sit still, classclown and life of the party. I only interrupt because if I don't I'll forgoet what my point was that I wanted to make and everyone (those unafflicted with adhd talk way too slow ). By the time they finsh what thier saying, I've already had 15 other thoughts and about 8 things I could be doing :chuckle .Look if you are truely ADD you need to get on the Meds. They have changed my life. Got on when I was 21, was a B/C/D student non motivated, going down the wrong trail for sure. Got on the Meds, graduated with onutstanding grad honors 3.5 years later and am non in CRNA school. yOU THE meds to your advantage, I am a big advocate, not saying they dont have side effects, and post school I will attempt to kinck them but cant now, to much going on. I take adderall, titrate my own dose, somedays take 20mg/d, sometime 60mg, depends on whats going on and how long I want to stay up. Dont let that hold you back man, the meds are there for a reason take them. And get out the freaking psyc hospital that will drive you crazy and make you feel weird in itself.
My doctors are trying to figure out what to put me on. I have type 1 diabetes, hypothyroidism and take an anti-depressant. The goal is to keep me from being too tired(thyroid already causes that) and keep my bloodsugar somewhat normal. I'm hopefully getting a pump in april of the coming year because everything runs my sugar either extremely high or extremely low. It is nice to have an adhd nurse family to come connect with.
Dec 16, '05Occupation: RN Specialty: 7 year(s) of experience in Psych, LTC, Nursing Management, WCC ; From: US ; Joined: Nov '05; Posts: 792; Likes: 519Quote from button2cuteDitto... not to mention rather disgusting. Apparently someone mentions ADD/ADHD, dyslexia, etc.. and EVERYONE is an expert. It is one thing to discuss, support and offer information but it is a completely different thing when it starts to get into a mudslinging... he said she said... battle between people so that they can prove that they are right and the other is wrong.Hello, Everyone
I think it is funny, how people can diagnosis others and know about a learning disability as they have it.
I believe that some people who are not learning disabled or physical disabled make a lot of assumptions. The assumptions are derived by ignorance....period.
I wish the nursing schools and other medical facilities would send everyone to sensitivity classes and a 100 hours of clinicals working with the learning and physical disabled individuals. Because it will eliminate the ignorance and myths about the functions and abilities of those individuals who are disabled.
I am dyslexic and I did not ever had a medication error as one poster claims that all dyslexic people would do. However, those who are not dyslexic made errors and I guess that is acceptable...NOT.
I choose to disagree respectively to those posters who states learning disables can function as a nurse.
Have a great evening, lol
I just want to read how it personally affects each person, how they cope and if they take meds... then everyone can learn more together. How the disorder affects one person may or may not be the same way it affects another. In other words.... drop the "We...we...we" because it is generalizing and thus starts the debating.
Be more empathetic when responding. Nursing is about treating the person and their response to a disease. It's about validation. In the beginning someone mentioned that they didn't like taking the meds because it made them "dull". So being a responsible person I opened some books and researched a little and posted my reply which validated what they said. My point... I didn't spout off at the mouth and refute what they said just because I personally never experienced it.
The signs and symptoms vary but when one tells their experience it may be quite possible that they have other undiagnosed illnessess such as Bipolar, personality disorders, etc... and those symptoms are getting "thrown" into the mix. So if someone states something that doesn't seem to "fit" the ADD/ADHD mold... first open a credible text and read and then tactfully reply. And while you are replying remember what you are. A nursing professional who should do everything they can to support one another and remember that nurses are educators. And never forget that anyone can read these posts... including a layperson who is very vulnerable...who is seeking guidance and help. And look at what they have read so far. WOW!
Dec 16, '05Occupation: RN Specialty: 7 year(s) of experience in Psych, LTC, Nursing Management, WCC ; From: US ; Joined: Nov '05; Posts: 792; Likes: 519Quote from smsAmen! That is all I am asking for. :icon_hug: Share the love........why can't we just all get along!!!!!
Dec 16, '05Occupation: RN/LMFT Specialty: 7 year(s) of experience ; From: US ; Joined: Nov '03; Posts: 3,081; Likes: 233Quote from HairstylingnurseBy definition, one must have had ADD or ADHD (or ADD-H as it is called now) prior to age 7 whether or not there has been a diagnosis made by that time......have been diagnosed for ADHD. I have had this since I was a child, although I don't think they had a diagnosis for it then. I think it is getting worse as I'm getting older. Or maybe I'm just less able to deal with it since I'm getting older(I'm 36). I have always been loud, unable to sit still, classclown and life of the party. I only interrupt because if I don't I'll forgoet what my point was that I wanted to make and everyone (those unafflicted with adhd talk way too slow ). By the time they finsh what thier saying, I've already had 15 other thoughts and about 8 things I could be doing :chuckle .
There was a name for it when you were a child, although I don't know what it may have been. There have been lots of names for it along the way.
When I was a child (I'm 52) it was called "minimal brain dysfunction," which is a pretty accurate description, I think most would agree who have it. My mother, then an RN, thought that was pretty horrible, hated psych nursing in her training, and maintained a personal level of denial that kept me from being diagnosed. Personally, I have mixed feelings about that. If I had known I was disabled, I probably would not have achieved what I have achieved.
I will say that there were many, many times when I was expected to know things I didn't know, be aware of stuff I was clueless about, and that I was a quiet, somewhat depressed child who never felt like I fit in. How much of that was the ADD-H and how much of it was other stuff, no one will ever know. (Which brings up another very valid point. It is probably not likely that all of anyone's problems or personality quirks can be blamed on any one factor, even if it is ADD.)
I worked hard to get passed all that stuff. It still nips at me at times. I am triple, quadruple careful, for example, when doling out meds, and I am soooo grateful for the EMAR which keeps me from making errors. It may send me back to the pyxis at times, but I don't make med errors.
Be that as it may.....
I was not diagnosed until age 42.
So my experience is both personal and professional.
Before I was diagnosed, I graduated from college with tremendous grades, got my master's, was licensed as a therapist. I was a wife and a mother of two. I had friends, a crazy family of origin, was very active in my community, had strong feelings about what was right and how I wanted to live my life within the context of my family and community. I was (and am) a high achiever, and generally a very happy person.
Different people react and respond to the condition in different ways.
Medication can be helpful for those symptoms which are out of one's control. I have tried various and sundry medications and, when I can remember to take them, I have had mixed results. For me, the best combo has been purposeful awareness of those characteristics that are my ADD-H and working them so they don't work me; and Adderall (preferably generic) at those times when I know I am not well enough rested, not well enough centered, or going to be in a new, or overwhelming, or anxiety-producing situation, and I therefore know that parts of me will not be as easily managed/controlled.
Counseling and behavior modification are the best thing generally, because they do not further screw with your body's (and your brain's) chemistry.
As I wrote, let me reiterate, different people react and respond in different ways. And some of the ADD and ADD-H qualities actually enhance performance. I credit my "condition" with my ability to ram through my nursing program with incredible efficiency, not just speed.
So just because you have it, doesn't mean you necessarily have to take meds, or even that your life will be better if you take meds.
The only other thing I'd like to mention, which I have not seen here (might have missed it, and if so, apologies) is that whether or not a person has one condition or another, it is wrong (yes, wrong) to make assumptions about that person or their work habits or their personalities, based upon that diagnosis. We are all over other people for not labeling patients ("the appy in 401B") and then we do it to ourselves and each other.
So let's not do that, okay?
Dec 23, '05Occupation: Nurse Specialty: Ltc ; Joined: Jan '05; Posts: 648; Likes: 362Hi,
My case is way different than the above poster. I always thought that NOT being able to achieve higher grades was a definite component to ADD/ADHD no matter what. My case is the typical young little girl who went unoticed in elementary school. I was considered a "daydreamer" and a tad bit slower at reading and writing which led me into the reading and math "Vans" which were special areas for the "slower" kids. WHich was a pretty embarassing concept if you ask me....in 3rd through whatever grade, they would come to the class and call me and 3 others to go to this thing out in the play ground that looked like a trailer for one on one tutoring. I used to hate the feeling when they would come to my classroom and say my name to come to that van, along with about 4 others. I know that was long sorry, but I figured I'd get to the "root" of it because it only makes sense to start from the beginning. BY the way, nice thread, it's comforting to know that there are others who are successfully managing nursing school with this condition.
I'm currently taking Ritalin right now and it has been a life saver. I started the meds in the middle of my first semester of nursing because the course facilitator would not allow anyone to tape record the classes, in which taping the "pre reqs" got me through all of those tough "biology's". I was in the failing zone during mid term with a D and was so upset that I said, "That's it!" I always suspected that I had add because I am 29 years old without a degree, who has attempted a degree over 4 or 5 times without success. I kept dropping out cause it was too overwhelming. So, I waitressed and bartendended for years, which I loved because your never bored. My symptoms?
Well, nursing requires ALOT of long periods of concentration which is something I always stuggled with. After going on the meds, my grades went from a D to almost a B the first semester. And I just completed the second semester and ended with an 82%, and this semester was TOUGH! And believe me, I was evaluated by a psych and tested MYSELF and like another poster said if I don't have ADD, I don't know who has. I will admit I could be in denial about it sometimes, but I'm starting to accept it more and more as time goes on. So, yes I need meds, and no I don't want to have to take this stuff the rest of my life but If I have to I will. Good luck to all of you struggling with ADD(and those who aren't), I know it could bring you down at times (maybe not) because we have to resort to meds in order to funtion "normally" but I'm also very thankful that I don't need insulin or have any other problems.
Other symptoms I forgot to mention,
Blanking out on tests and forgetting everything
Saying things that I don't mean on impulse
Feel like I'm driven by a motor, etc etc.
Here's the good part, when i'm under pressure, I function better, that's why I know I'll be a good nurse. I need to be busy. Plus, the meds help emensly!Last edit by CrystalClear75 on Dec 23, '05
Dec 23, '05Occupation: ER RN Joined: Dec '03; Posts: 0; Likes: 12Hello, All
A professor, instructor, assistant or anyone that is directing a class cannot deny a usage of a tape recorder. It is allow according to the ADA to enhance your learning. I use one in every class and it helps other students to use their tape recorder. I do utilize the ADA office or the Special learning needs department or what ever name they list for the learning and physical disability.
Just go to the department, submit your paperwork and pick up the paperwork and issue to your professors.
Dec 24, '05Joined: Feb '05; Posts: 126; Likes: 8I just want to wish everyone on this forum/thread a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year I am proud of everyone. I am very glad to hear they have ADA learning needs department in the schools now. It gives me hope that it has improved since I left. Remember never give up. You will make it. Have fun opening all those presents. :-)))))
Dec 27, '05Joined: Dec '05; Posts: 17Quote from teeituptomYour comment shows your ignorance.ADD and ADHD are widely abused diagnosis's
now the Have also AAADD...Age Activated Attention Deficit Disorder, shuckins I just thought I was getting old.
Dec 27, '05Joined: Apr '00; Posts: 24,611; Likes: 35,453Quote from IWant2Believefirst i want to say that i have add although i was never tested for it as a child. but i struggled in school, couldn't focus, easily distracted and rambunctious, unable to complete tasks and way too impulsive w/poor judgement and insight. i was tested a few yrs ago so the dx is now official. i just choose not to use ritalin, adderall or any other of the meds.Your comment shows your ignorance.
but tom is right. add/adhd was the diagnosis of the 90's.
and it was teachers who were diagnosing the less than perfect students.
they would send home letters or call the house to share their concerns about the unruly child or the child who wasn't realizing their potential. there were many teachers that would suggest to the parents that their child had add/adhd.....then sadly, there were doctors who would prescribe the meds w/o having the child fully evaluated; they would go on the teacher's assessments. so if the child did not have add/adhd, these meds would only exacerbate the child's behavior(s), never mind the very dangerous se's of using these stimulants.
i speak from experience because my dtr was dx'd when she was 4 yo. we had her on and off meds. when she was off meds, she was problematic and terribly stigmatized by the teachers. and these same teachers would comment on how most of the class had add/adhd. i was highly involved in the school system during my dtr's elementary yrs and met enough teachers to see their prejudices against children that acted anything less than the stepford child. now the millenium's latest dx is bipolar.....anyway, i can see where you would take offense at tom's comment for those who do have add/adhd; but it was an extremely casually, overused dx once upon a time.
Dec 27, '05Occupation: SNE Joined: Feb '05; Posts: 75; Likes: 1I take Strattera and it has done wonders for me. Not only do I feel much calmer inside, my sleep is better. My dreams are not incredibly outrageous. It was interesting reading this thread. It's hard to believe that there are still people who believe that if you can't see the illness it must not be real.
Dec 28, '05Joined: Nov '05; Posts: 859; Likes: 139Quote from IWant2BelieveHear hear, yeah that! And all that stuff. Some folks just need to catch up on journals.Your comment shows your ignorance.