H1B

caroladybelle, BSN, RN · Apr 26, 2009

Duplicate post, my regrets.

caroladybelle, BSN, RN · Apr 26, 2009

The statement cited indicated that a BSN is "required" for a staff RN position in a Magnet facility, NOT that it is assessed and weighted.

While it does count for some importance, it is not "required" as stated in the post. And that needed to be clarified.

And, if it counts I was not hired lowest level RN in position, but farther up in my Magnet facility.

Said facility consistantly ranks on the top of hospital polls nationally and internationally, has no shortage and can pick and choose staff, and is frequently cited as a benchmark for excellence.

I doubt if it is "lowering its standards" and seriously doubt that it will lose Magnet status or let it lapse any time soon.

While a BSN is laudible and I hope to attain one someday, it is not "required".

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allnurses Guide · Apr 27, 2009

If I remember correctly, you came to the US with a special skill set and the knowledge how to implement a very unique piece of technology. Can someone with a newly minted BSN with a year's experience qualify as a specialist ? I don't know the answer, where I work I have not seen an IEN newly employed in many years. Hospitals in my area have more new grad nurses.

That's true, but it's not required. For H1B, tons of newly graduated IT professionals etc qualify. What is required is a bachelor degree to meet the minumum requirements. Obviously more experience is better, but it's not REQUIRED.

misswoosie · Apr 27, 2009

I was just thinking that in order to get an H1b I need to prove that BSN is required by the employer. The Magnet status would help to prove to immigration that BSN is needed to work in this hospital.

Some of you folks sometimes come across as sooooooooooo discouraging and uhelpful!

I think what the OP means is that maybe more jobs in magnet hospitals might "require" BSN so more options for jobs that might meet criteria for H1B.

There are still lots of nursing jobs available in some states

I would agree that a lawyer is paramount for H1B.My husbands petition that the lawyer completed was 90 pages and any hospital will want to deal with a lawyer anyway.

Many hospitals have their own immigration attorney firm that they use and as it happened,for us it was the attorney firm that we had contacted for advice.They know the information about the company that is required for the petition.

Silverdragon102, BSN · Apr 27, 2009

Some of you folks sometimes come across as sooooooooooo discouraging and uhelpful!
I think what the OP means is that maybe more jobs in magnet hospitals might "require" BSN so more options for jobs that might meet criteria for H1B.
There are still lots of nursing jobs available in some states
I would agree that a lawyer is paramount for H1B.My husbands petition that the lawyer completed was 90 pages and any hospital will want to deal with a lawyer anyway.
Many hospitals have their own immigration attorney firm that they use and as it happened,for us it was the attorney firm that we had contacted for advice.They know the information about the company that is required for the petition.

H1b can only be applied for by the employer so they will use a lawyer to do so. The employer also has to pay all fees for H1b

misswoosie · Apr 27, 2009

H1b can only be applied for by the employer so they will use a lawyer to do so.

The employer also has to pay all fees for H1b

But of course!

-L-E- · Apr 27, 2009

Some of you folks sometimes come across as sooooooooooo discouraging and uhelpful!
I think what the OP means is that maybe more jobs in magnet hospitals might "require" BSN so more options for jobs that might meet criteria for H1B.
There are still lots of nursing jobs available in some states
I would agree that a lawyer is paramount for H1B.My husbands petition that the lawyer completed was 90 pages and any hospital will want to deal with a lawyer anyway.
Many hospitals have their own immigration attorney firm that they use and as it happened,for us it was the attorney firm that we had contacted for advice.They know the information about the company that is required for the petition.

Exactly, this was my point. Thank you :)

Ginger's Mom, MSN, RN · Apr 28, 2009

It has been established here that BSN for a Magnet Hospital.

To review H1B is

The H1B visa is an option available to a limited group of foreign national registered nurses. An H1B petition for a registered nurse may be approved if the offered position is in a "specialty occupation," which is defined in the Immigration and Nationality Act as one that requires the "theoretical and practical application of a body of highly specialized knowledge" and "attainment of a bachelor's, or higher, degree in the specific specialty or its equivalent." These requirements pose a problem in most nurse cases, as the minimum requirement to be licensed as an RN is generally a two-year degree in nursing, rather than a four-year bachelor's degree.

Many RNs, therefore, would not qualify for the H1B classification. However, a petitioning employer may show that a particular RN position could qualify for an H1B by demonstrating that:

a bachelor's degree or higher (or its equivalent) is normally the minimum requirement for entry into that particular position;

the degree requirement is common to the industry in parallel nursing positions;

the employer normally requires a degree or its equivalent for the position;

or the nature of the position's duties is so specialized and complex that the knowledge required to perform the duties is usually associated with the attainment of a bachelor's degree, or higher (or its equivalent). In determining how experience may be substituted for education, BCIS uses the formula that three years of specialized training and/or work experience is equal to one year of college-level training.

Three Categories Possibly Qualifying for H1B

1) Certain types of RNs may meet these requisite qualifications for the H1B visa. The first category of nurses who generally will be approved is the certified advanced practice registered nurse (APRN) category.

clinical nurse specialists (CNSs)

certified registered nurse anesthetist (CRNAs)

certified nurse-midwives (CNMs)

certified nurse practitioners (NPs) fall within this category.

If an APRN position requires the employee to be certified in that practice, the nurse must possess an RN, at least a Bachelor of Science in Nursing, and some additional, graduate-level education. CNSs include Acute Care, Adult, Critical Care, Gerontological, Family, Hospice, Palliative Care, Neonatal, Pediatric, Psychiatric and Mental Health-Adult, Psychiatric and Mental Health-Child, and Women's Health nurses. NPs include Acute Care, Adult, Family, Gerontological, Pediatric, Psychiatric & Mental Health, Neonatal, and Women's Health nurses.

2) The second category of nurses who may qualify for the H1B are those in administrative positions requiring graduate degrees in fields such as nursing or health administration.

3) A final, more subjective group that may receive H1B approval includes those who have a nursing specialty such as critical care and peri-operative nurses, or who have passed examinations based on clinical experience in school health, occupational health, rehabilitation nursing, emergency room nursing, critical care, operating room, oncology, and pediatrics, but who are not APRNs. In these cases, the petitioner must show that the nature of the particular position is so specialized and complex that one would normally expect the person performing the duties to have attained a bachelor's (or higher) degree, or its equivalent.

The tricky part here is that a hospital would have to have it written in.

A. BSN is mandated for the position.

B. The hospital has to show that there are no qualified Americans AND being willing to pay immigration fees.

C. The OP is going to find a position which has A&B with one year experience.

Sorry, I don't see that happening.

And this is a non immigrant visa that has to renewed.

allnurses Guide · Apr 28, 2009

Sorry, but i don't think oyu know what you're talking about. I don't know where your information posted was from, but there's no way an APRN would get a H1B - they would qualify for EB2 category IV.

A masters degree is most definitely NOT REQUIRED for H1B classification. The "specialty" occupation is very easily shown in a position requiring a BSN.

I just really don't know why you continue to harp on this when you have never undergone the process, and continue to post inaccurate or negatively-slanted information. A green card requires renewal, as does a NIV. Big deal.

Sure, the H1B is not for everyone, but it certainly has a place for certain people.