Published Dec 18, 2015
Apple2020
17 Posts
Greetings, I posted a thread regarding the cost of school and everyone on here has been so helpful! I have a question regarding a guaranteed seat program I have been accepted to.
I am a high school senior who plans to earn a BSN and then a DNP. I have been accepted to all the colleges I have applied at and now the harder part of determining how much to spend on my education has come in to play as a role in my decision.
I have been accepted to Palm Beach Atlantic, a university in southern Florida that has a wonderful program and their NCLEX pass rate is around 96% and some years even %100! I also applied to and was accepted to their guaranteed seat program, so as long as I have satisfactory grades, I will continue in the program without having to take the TEAS, apply for upper lever, etc. I visited the school and absolutely loved it and really the only thing that may be a factor for me not attending the university would be its cost.
The degree will (with calculated loan rates) cost me approximately $40,000 (after scholarships, savings, work during the summer and school year). This appears to be a lot of money I really don't want to spend especially because I want to get a DNP. BUT is having a guaranteed seat worth the cost?
My other top school is Austin Peay State University, the nursing program appears to be good, the NCLEX pass rate is good (I don't recall the numbers at the moment), and my cousin attends and she has enjoyed her time there. It is a state school and I will have to be a pre-nursing student first. If I go to APSU, I will, with scholarships, savings, and work, be able to attend the college debt free.
SO, is going to a private school on the beach in Florida and having a guaranteed seat worth $40,000? Or should I attend a state school, with the risk of being wait-listed, etc. and not have any debt? I keep hearing about it being hard to get into nursing programs but I feel I am a strong student (3.95 high school GPA and a 26 ACT score) so I am confident that with good work I will do good in college wherever I go but I don't want to put my career on hold just to save money. If you guys could give me your input I would appreciate it. Thanks! :)
Hoosier_RN, MSN
3,965 Posts
Stay away from debt. No degree is worth wrecking your financial future, especially if you can avoid it.
meanmaryjean, DNP, RN
7,899 Posts
Look up the cost of repaying $40K. Imagine what lifestyle choices you will have to make as a new grad to pay that back. Not worth it. (You could take a lot of sunny Florida vacations as a gainfully employed nurse with $40k)
GatezRN
117 Posts
Keep costs low if you can. My student loans currently total about 41,000 and my payment is about $500 a month and this is with fairly low interest rates. I also had a private loan I took for school totaling 9,000, but I paid that off using tuition reimbursement over a few years that I received from the hospital I was working at. Five hundred a month may not seem like a ton of money to pay per month, but also factor in other life expenses as you get older....car, car insurance, mortgage/rent, food, kids activities, health insurance, emergencies, travel, entertainment, ect.... it really adds up. Borrow responsibly would be my advice. Good luck!
twozer0, NP
1 Article; 293 Posts
You know how many employers care where you get your degree from? Very few (if any). As long as you are an RN, nobody will question where you got your BSN (because the RN is a state licensure, and required to operate). If I had the option of doing school free or for 40k, the answer is pretty clear. The less debt you can come out with, the better your life will be. Sure you might be near a beach, and have some ammenities but you'll probably not have much time to enjoy them.
If you want an honest opinion, aside from teaching masters level classes, there is no benefit to a DNP. Of which, you should have some years under your belt as a nurse too before you are actually teaching them. I see a lot of posts where freshmen and high school seniors seem to be a in a rush to get to the highest degree the fastest way possible. This isnt always the best scenario (nor is it the most practical). Educate yourself more on the DNP degree. You'll find many here that share the same sentiments as I do about it, and we're all practicing nurses with many years under us.
Do your BSN on the cheap, save your cash, and live well!
NurseGirl525, ASN, RN
3,663 Posts
You know how many employers care where you get your degree from? Very few (if any). As long as you are an RN, nobody will question where you got your BSN (because the RN a state liscensure, and required to operate). If I had the option of doing school free or for 40k, the answer is pretty clear. The less debt you can come out with, the better your life will be. Sure you might be near a beach, and have some ammenities but you'll probably not have much time to enjoy them.If you want an honest opinion, aside from teaching masters level classes, there is no benefit to a DNP. Of which, you should have some years under your belt as a nurse too before you are actually teaching them. I see a lot of posts where freshmen and high school seniors seem to be a in a rush to get to the highest degree the fastest way possible. This isnt always the best scenario (nor is it the most practical). Educate yourself more on the DNP degree. You'll find many here that share the same sentiments as I do about it, and we're all practicing nurses with many years under us. Do your BSN on the cheap, save your cash, and live well!
They do do care if it's a for profit college. I know Austin Peay is an excellent university. If you are planning to go for your doctorate, Austin Peay will be more favorably looked upon when applying to graduate schools.
At some point you may have to have your doctorate to be an NP. Not right now, but in the future. I disagree with the PP. You have the time to complete this goal right now and I would take advantage of it.
I would not go into huge debt for it though. My sister did for her doctorate and pays more than a house payment to repay that debt. Yes she makes great money but she still cannot afford a house and she is going to be in her mid-thirties next year.
Do what you want to do in life as you are the one living it, but I would stay in TN right now, graduate with your BSN and then start working in Florida and go to grad school. That way you still get to experience Florida while you are young.
Im counting down my years until I can possibly move down south!!
They do do care if it's a for profit college. I know Austin Peay is an excellent university. If you are planning to go for your doctorate, Austin Peay will be more favorably looked upon when applying to graduate schools.At some point you may have to have your doctorate to be an NP. Not right now, but in the future. I disagree with the PP. You have the time to complete this goal right now and I would take advantage of it.I would not go into huge debt for it though. My sister did for her doctorate and pays more than a house payment to repay that debt. Yes she makes great money but she still cannot afford a house and she is going to be in her mid-thirties next year. Do what you want to do in life as you are the one living it, but I would stay in TN right now, graduate with your BSN and then start working in Florida and go to grad school. That way you still get to experience Florida while you are young. Im counting down my years until I can possibly move down south!!
In regards to the BSN I was refering to employment and not graduate school as stated in my first line. As it is right now, there is no requirement for a doctorate for NP. This could change in the future but those with current masters degrees will likely be grandfathered in. The only advanced practice that is now requiring a doctorate is CRNA which is pushing to get all schools transformed over by 2025. Ask any CRNA and see if they feel this is necessary (its not). It's all political garbage and attempting to have "parity" with higher degree's. As far as actually doing the job, it will offer no benefit, much like DNP does today.
What does the OP intend on doing with their DNP? Advanced practice? Teach? In most cases, actual income will be higher if just working as a staff nurse, especially when compared to teaching. I'm not a strong advocate for jumping into this degree until it starts to show some salary compensation and real benefits other than the fact of being terminal.
elkpark
14,633 Posts
I agree you should take the less expensive option. That $40,000 (and the interest you would pay on it over the years, if you're talking student loans) would buy you a lot of nice FL vacations.
RNinIN, Absolutely, thats what I've been thinking about, the way I see it, $40,000 could more than buy my dream car or a down payment on a house, so I'm really leaning towards going to a state school instead. Thanks for your input! :)
meanmaryjean, I would have to agree with you, this has been my thinking as the logistics of paying this off would be very difficult, plus if I had saved $40,000 I could have bought my dream car of an Aston Martin DB7 and still have another $20,000 haha (or, as you said, take quite a few vacations to my favorite state!) Thanks for your input! :)
Thanks so much for your input! And yes, I don't want to become another statistic of a student who over-payed for an education. I am leaning towards going to a state school with no debt
twozer0, thanks for your input! After hearing from everyone hear, and then some family and friends, I think my decision is going to be a state school and end up coming out debt free :) as far as my intentions, I strongly desire to be a Nurse Practitioner and hopefully specialize for work in the ER, ICU, or surgical. Later in my life, if I prove to be a confident and knowledgeable worker, I'd like to be a head nurse at a hospital. This is why I was thinking of going ahead and getting a DNP after working for a while, at least while I'm younger and don't have as many responsibilities.