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Is there any updated information? I have been in heavy contact with them and am looking at taking their RN-BSN program. I work with a GCU grad and she has nothing but positive things to say, but I want more opinions. ?

Any pro's and cons? Thankfully the only class I'm missing is stats and that is offered in the actual BSN program. I'm a bit nervous as my algebra skills are way old. If anyone took this class, do you have any advice?

Specializes in Certified Med/Surg tele, and other stuff.
I knew this CLC Project was going to bite me in the hiney... I received most of the information from other group members and oh boy....

I am putting the power point together and checking the references. To put it nicely there is not much original content, or even paraphrased content. Yes there is references and citations (which I have had to correct) but really????

So, little advice please.... Should I just continue, finish it, and hand it in or redo most of it so that it will be in compliance? I realize that there isn't much original content in nursing theories, but it shouldn't be direct passages.

I wonder how she will grade. So far it has been fairly soft, but she hasn't graded the paper yet.

I am not going to like CLC projects......

Well, that is always the difficult thing of CLC. Pandora (my AN and GCU buddy) and I would fix the mistakes and even Google where we thought the information had come from, read and fix. So essentially re-writing someone's work. We literally would tag team our other members. She took one and I took another. Yeah, that's really sad that time needs to be spent fixing basic APA errors. However, we couldn't leave it as is. Some instructors can be pretty harsh on the APA and other's a bit more soft.

What you decide to do is up to you. My guess is, you will fix it, because it's going to bother you if you don't. ;)

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I knew this CLC Project was going to bite me in the hiney... I received most of the information from other group members and oh boy....

I am putting the power point together and checking the references. To put it nicely there is not much original content, or even paraphrased content. Yes there is references and citations (which I have had to correct) but really????

So, little advice please.... Should I just continue, finish it, and hand it in or redo most of it so that it will be in compliance? I realize that there isn't much original content in nursing theories, but it shouldn't be direct passages.

I wonder how she will grade. So far it has been fairly soft, but she hasn't graded the paper yet.

I am not going to like CLC projects......

and whats really awesome is when the pp is pretty much finished, and members just need to approve they are ok with it, then somebody who has been MIA swoops in and starts editing it... :no::devil:

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Specializes in UR/CM, Managed Care.
I knew this CLC Project was going to bite me in the hiney... I received most of the information from other group members and oh boy....

I am putting the power point together and checking the references. To put it nicely there is not much original content, or even paraphrased content. Yes there is references and citations (which I have had to correct) but really????

So, little advice please.... Should I just continue, finish it, and hand it in or redo most of it so that it will be in compliance? I realize that there isn't much original content in nursing theories, but it shouldn't be direct passages.

I wonder how she will grade. So far it has been fairly soft, but she hasn't graded the paper yet.

I am not going to like CLC projects......

I was really hoping this wouldn't happen to you :blackeye:. Is this the ppt on nursing theorists?

What about it stinks, exactly? Are they quoting too much?

So, regarding

Should I just continue, finish it, and hand it in or redo most of it so that it will be in compliance?
, it has to be in compliance, so I guess your real question is do you do it or do you try to send it back for re-writes by the original offenders? Hmm. Tough one. I guess it depends on what exactly stinks about it? If it's originality, I might be tempted to let that go because a) there's nothing on the rubric that scores originality, and b) you're right, there's not a whole lot about these icons that hasn't been said before, and c) if your team members turned that in to you to begin with, chances are they won't understand exactly what you're asking them to redo - they think they did it right the first time. If the deficits are just APA junk, keep in mind that the formatting part of the rubric is usually only 5%, and if you get a 3-dot or a 4-dot on the rubric, that's still only a percentage off that 5%, not even the whole 5. Depending on what the major offenses are, just gotta weigh the drama/trauma/time spent out of your upcoming weekend vs. a lower grade (but as jjPeds said, I've yet to see a super-stinky grade on a CLC, even when I thought it should have been flushed down the toity).

Me personally? I've been known to spend days on putting it together and tweaking and editing, so I'm not a super objective person on this subject. I have no idea how the grade would have turned out if I had just left well enough alone, I didn't have the guts to try it (maybe should have?)

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Specializes in UR/CM, Managed Care.
What you decide to do is up to you. My guess is, you will fix it, because it's going to bother you if you don't. ;)

I would like to see a study on these CLCs. Like, how does it magically just happen that there's ONE OF US in every group? And the other 4-5 don't give a hoot (or simply don't get it)? It just seems too coincidental to be random?! And if there ever comes a time when one of "us" isn't in a group, what does that project look like? Who even puts it together if no one offers/steps up? I'd like to see one of those!

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Specializes in Certified Med/Surg tele, and other stuff.
I was really hoping this wouldn't happen to you :blackeye:. Is this the ppt on nursing theorists?

What about it stinks, exactly? Are they quoting too much?

So, regarding , it has to be in compliance, so I guess your real question is do you do it or do you try to send it back for re-writes by the original offenders? Hmm. Tough one. I guess it depends on what exactly stinks about it? If it's originality, I might be tempted to let that go because a) there's nothing on the rubric that scores originality, and b) you're right, there's not a whole lot about these icons that hasn't been said before, and c) if your team members turned that in to you to begin with, chances are they won't understand exactly what you're asking them to redo - they think they did it right the first time. If the deficits are just APA junk, keep in mind that the formatting part of the rubric is usually only 5%, and if you get a 3-dot or a 4-dot on the rubric, that's still only a percentage off that 5%, not even the whole 5. Depending on what the major offenses are, just gotta weigh the drama/trauma/time spent out of your upcoming weekend vs. a lower grade (but as jjPeds said, I've yet to see a super-stinky grade on a CLC, even when I thought it should have been flushed down the toity).

Me personally? I've been known to spend days on putting it together and tweaking and editing, so I'm not a super objective person on this subject. I have no idea how the grade would have turned out if I had just left well enough alone, I didn't have the guts to try it (maybe should have?)

Exactly on all points. What would those grades have been? Hard telling, but maybe no less than a B?

I think the instructors are easier on the first ppt, paper in the first class anyway.

Want it you prism that had a member show you her previous ppt work and it had painful music in the back round and writing directly over horrid pictures??

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Specializes in Certified Med/Surg tele, and other stuff.
I would like to see a study on these CLCs. Like, how does it magically just happen that there's ONE OF US in every group? And the other 4-5 don't give a hoot (or simply don't get it)? It just seems too coincidental to be random?! And if there ever comes a time when one of "us" isn't in a group, what does that project look like? Who even puts it together if no one offers/steps up? I'd like to see one of those!

I would love to be a bug on the wall.

I think even in the laziest of lazy there would be a leader. Not much of one though.

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I'm done!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I would like to see a study on these CLCs. Like, how does it magically just happen that there's ONE OF US in every group? And the other 4-5 don't give a hoot (or simply don't get it)? It just seems too coincidental to be random?! And if there ever comes a time when one of "us" isn't in a group, what does that project look like? Who even puts it together if no one offers/steps up? I'd like to see one of those!

Well Prism, my friend who is NOT a slacker, just a very busy mom of a new baby, was tired of leading her groups. She didn't want to initiate discussion in her Ethics class (two part CLC), because when you initiate sometimes you become the leader and editor and babysitter. No one wanted to initiate I guess, because her teacher posted in their forum telling them to start working in week three. Finally on Tuesday of week for she posted saying they needed to start working, and wednesday she got responses. I think they finished up their project Saturday and turned it in without a problem. I was biting my nails for her though. That would stress me way out.

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I'm done!!!!!!!!!!!!

YAY Congrats Sunshine!

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I knew this CLC Project was going to bite me in the hiney... I received most of the information from other group members and oh boy....

I am putting the power point together and checking the references. To put it nicely there is not much original content, or even paraphrased content. Yes there is references and citations (which I have had to correct) but really????

So, little advice please.... Should I just continue, finish it, and hand it in or redo most of it so that it will be in compliance? I realize that there isn't much original content in nursing theories, but it shouldn't be direct passages.

I wonder how she will grade. So far it has been fairly soft, but she hasn't graded the paper yet.

I am not going to like CLC projects......

I had this problem in nursing research. Part of the CLC for that class you find a specifically *nursing* research article and review it. Our teacher was really great and made several postings in different ways saying that nursing research was mandatory and offered help if needed. I had chatted with a librarian. She showed me how to narrow the results to nursing research, and it is quite easy.

Anyway, my teammate choose an article that wasn't even close to nursing research. On top of that she copied and pasted directly from her online source. She didn't use direct quotes and didn't cite correctly. I figured it would be easier to correct it myself. I spent HOURS paraphrasing her work, but I posted in the color forum to let her know this is not appropriate at the college level. She can't just use copy and paste, even if we aren't using TII, and without quotations it's considered plagiarism. I told her, that her second slide had to be in her own words. Afterwards I thought I came off a little too harsh, and that if I posted in the morning I would have been a little kinder.

She turned in her second slide and it was a word for word copy of her source, again! :banghead::banghead::banghead:

My other teammate told her, again, this isn't acceptable. The teacher ended up stepping in and saying there was a violation of GCUs academic policy, and that it needed to be fixed before submission. After that she seemed to be able to put her work in her own words!

If I was in that position again, I wouldn't fix it in the first place. I would just tell her that she can't do that. Editing some of the sentences I've seen is already too much work.

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Properly Citing GCU Lecture Notes... brought to you by this week's edition of "WHO KNEW??"

In-text citation example: According to Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, the grief process follows a natural cycle of phases that includes denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and finally acceptance ("Lecture 5," 2011).

Reference example: Understanding and Overcoming Grief. (2011). HLT-310V: Spirituality in Health Care. Phoenix, AZ: Grand Canyon University.

Note: No URL is required for electronic resources within a GCU course. (you know, the URL that is 10,000 characters long that runs right off the page of some people's DQs?

I'd like to take this opportunity to rename our weekly submission from

"WHO KNEW??" to " :hlk: "

as in, "Nobody has pointed this out to me until class #9?? Do you know how many hundreds of times I have written (Grand Canyon University[GCU], 2011). ?

and in case you're wondering the rationale for the citation/reference format: "The title in quotation marks is used instead of the author because lectures in GCU courses are not attributed to individual authors; in this case, the title moves into the first position in the in-text citation and is enclosed in quotation marks."

Now I'm no APA guru, but I've been doing the (GCU, 2011) bit because I thought if there was no individual author, the 2nd option is a Group Author/Institution. If this is indeed correct, why could someone not have mentioned this oh, I dunno, a year ago?

(insert sound of forehead hitting desk here)

SAY WHAT?!! I have been doing it like

Grand Canyon University. (year). title. Phoenix, AZ: Grand Canyon

I never included a link because it is always a generic LC one at the top, not a link to the actual material.

Did your instructor tell you this is correct? Why exactly don't you use GCU as the organization? I am always hesitant to not use the organization as an author because I thought not having an author is "rare" in APA.

Thank you for this amazing tip, even if I don't totally understand why this is the correct way. I wish APA wasn't so confusing. :dead::dead::dead:

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I'm done!!!!!!!!!!!!

Woohoo!!! Congrats SunshineDasiy!! I hope you get way more "relax" time in now!!

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