HI, I'd like to ask if someone has the same sitch as me and what they did.
I am a graduate of Manila Doctors College last May 2011.
I'm back here in California. I am a permanent resident (green card holder). I have read on the CA.RR.GOV that I do not need to take the Philippine local boards or the cgfns and the toefl exam to take the NCLEX.
I have already accomplished my livescan and sent in my application and paid 150$.
Now they have sent me a letter requiring me with the following things:
1. Class schedule for the nursing program completed at MDC
2. Transcript for all education and training sent from MDC
3. Enrollment forms during my nursing years
4. Clinical rotation schedule and/or student logbook reflecting dates, instructor's signature and location of clinical training completed
5. Social security card
6. Passport and visa
I have no problem with numbers 2,5 and 6. But my the others I don't know how to get. I don't have a copy of my class schedules anymore, and so as my enrollment forms for 4 years. and most importantly, the clinical rotation schedule with dates and instructor's signature. HOW WERE YOU GUYS ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT? I'm self reviewing for my exam and going to the library everyday, but right now i cant focus because I don't know how to accomplish these things.
I REALLY HOPE SOMEONE CAN GIVE ME AN ADVICE ON WHAT'S THE BEST THING TO DO.
Hi steppybay. I graduated 8 years ago and tried to continue this career. Im from SoCal but I took my courses in NorCal. I know its very far but I have no choice, It s very hard to find schools nowadays who offer special courses for foreign nurses. And if they have this courses you have to wait for their very very very long waiting list. However some schools have no waiting list but you have to pay a sky-high tuitions. Maybe Im very lucky to enlist to their enrollees. I think we are around 30-40 students taking MedSurg, OB, and Psych. Students are from London, Usbekistan, Canada, Ukraine, Norway, Russia, India and Philippines.
Thank you for the information! That's so true about the CA schools being difficult to find and the ones with no waiting list are fairly expensive.
The amount of international students and or nurses that are not only from the Phils but from other countries needing to retake MS and OB and Psych proves that those from the Phils wishing to bring legal action in the form of a lawsuit or some have mentioned a class-action suit against the CA BRN will not only lose their all monies for lawyers, but most important, lose the case in court.
It was stated by someone much earlier in another thread that a Filipino US lawyer looked into the CA BRN decision for months and found that the concurrency rules is valid and that the denied PH applicants do not have a leg to stand on.
Those claiming the unfairness or that the CA BRN is acting on a discriminatory basis against the PH alone is simply not true at all.
By seeing the various countries nursing schools are also lacking in their curriculums proves nothing more than the various countries are simply NOT meeting the States (CA in particular here) minimum educational requirements that's been set forth for over 25 years and in writing and fully disclosed to any and all applicants, if they read the policies and it's not being hidden or not mentioned at all.
Just curious steppybay, are you also a Philippine nursing graduate who applied to CA and was denied eligibility to take the NCLEX-RN? If so, did you finish your coursework or go with the LVN route? Or did you apply out of state?
Just curious steppybay, are you also a Philippine nursing graduate who applied to CA and was denied eligibility to take the NCLEX-RN? If so, did you finish your coursework or go with the LVN route? Or did you apply out of state?
Yes, a Phils graduate and denied in CA. No, I decided not to go the LVN-RN path (yet) nor go out of state (yet, but was looking to travel the States with some other friends to check out the cities, but those plans got put off to the side due to friend's conflict in getting the trip together-again).
I'm not putting off my nursing career (yet), but I did pursue something into the legal field and currently working as a paralegal intern and soon to get my paralegal degree. I did some research and paperwork for a US educated nursing friend that I met, who's father happens to be a very good CA trial attorney.
He asked if I could do some searching for a case, so I went to his firm's library and spent like three days (and late evenings), mind you, I don't have any legal background at all, I don't even understand their "language".
I put the legal findings together with the help of their person in charge. He was so impressed with my "work" in such a short period of time, my writings in English was pretty good he said (thank you for US kid's TV shows that I learned from, lol). I got paid a very nice sum for what little I did and he was able to win his case, he says partly due to my one finding that the other paralegals didn't think of adding. He recently (like 3 months ago) got paid from the client and he gave me a very nice surprise bonus!! Mind you, he deals with multi-million cases and clients. I can now buy a nice used car with the bonus check or save for a place of my own one day.
He knew the struggles I've been going thru having to not become a nurse, but offered to pay for my schooling and expenses to get the paralegal degree! I was able to stay in a guest unit of their large house (not too far from the ocean) and his family treats me so nice, I cry at times for this blessing.
He says that one day (soon), I can go on my own and do (form) my own paralegal research business and will refer others to me! I can charge from $500 to $5,000 or more depending on the case load and get paid in many cases with an upfront fee (retainer) before even starting the work. He and his partners will advise me of what I should get in the beginning so that I don't short-change myself as he feels I might just to be good and stay safe.
I'm working now on case that is paying me $45 an hour and have 3 weeks to finish (consider that he gets $500 an hour), working 40 plus hours, sometimes at their home, sometimes at Starbucks, sometimes in their offices, sometimes if I'm eating lunch with friends. As long as I have access to the library via the Ipad they gave me, I'm all good and can do my work as long as I have internet access and track my hours, which their Ipad system does.
Do I still want to be a nurse, yes, but at this point I'm in no real hurry and log on to this site to try to help others out or offer some information. Do I want to become a lawyer, yes and no, but I feel I'm more comfortable with just being a paralegal and not deal with the major headaches the actual attorneys do. I don't mind staying in the background and when we win cases, I feel I've done my job.
I see. That's nice to hear. Just wondering too... what year did you graduate? Did you take the NLE before coming to California? When did you receive your denial letter from CA BRN?
I see. That's nice to hear. Just wondering too... what year did you graduate? Did you take the NLE before coming to California? When did you receive your denial letter from CA BRN?
Sorry for the delay, I've been working on a long trial case. Got my CA BRN love letter back in 2011.
It's the decision of the BRN-Cali if you still need to study or not but most of the foreign graduates (98%) requires to take their deficiency courses. Like me I'm a foreign graduate and denied by BRN (california) so I enrolled for my deficient courses here in cali. Thank God Im dnoe with my schooling and they already approved my application to take the test.
Hi .,i have same case.. May i know what school you attended? Thanku
It's the decision of the BRN-Cali if you still need to study or not but most of the foreign graduates (98%) requires to take their deficiency courses. Like me I'm a foreign graduate and denied by BRN (california) so I enrolled for my deficient courses here in cali. Thank God Im dnoe with my schooling and they already approved my application to take the test.
Hi.. I was hoping maybe you can share the school where you took your deficiency courses.. Thankyou.. Im just so desperate looking for schools
Do we have to apply to CA BON to get a rejection letter before we can enroll in the courses that they said we missed? I graduated April 2013 in PI,not licensed there..
Do we have to apply to CA BON to get a rejection letter before we can enroll in the courses that they said we missed? I graduated April 2013 in PI,not licensed there..
Yes, probably a better way to get accepted into a CA approved school, as the head dean or counselor needs to see that it's what was determined by the CA BRN on exactly what courses are deficient.
We've all read of cases of some are lacking more than the MS-OB courses and to make up for Psych courses also.
So until the CA school can see that, then they can better fit you into their system and guide you, otherwise you could find yourself, thinking "ok, I'm done with MS-OB", only to later find out, Nope, you're still lacking Psych (and maybe something else).
Or maybe by the long stretch of good luck, you actually already do meet the CA BRN requirements and didn't even need to bother wasting more time and money for unnecessary courses.
With regards to not having a PH nursing licenses, is that because you're either a US citizen or a dual citizen? That would be a valid reason and can write a short explanation letter to that fact.
But at some point, it's possible that the CA BRN will no longer accept any excuses for not having the local country's nursing license stem the flow of falsified documents. It's another step for them to verify a valid nursing license by the name and numbers against the PH nursing records. As there have been US-Fil applicants, who were caught with Recto documents and filed school paperwork that was purchased, only to find they never attended the school and were actually living in the States.
This is why the CA BRN wants copies of passports WITH the stamps and if the CA BRN keeps finding more US-Fil applicants "cheating" their ways in, the CA BRN will no longer care that the PH will not allow US citizen to not get the local PH nursing license.
It will simply come down to NO Phils nursing license = automatic application rejection, try another state, next in line. It's the CA BRN rules or the streets.
Thank you for your reply..I guess that is the only way for me to determine what else i need to do-need to file my application..I am a green card holder..just need to submit the proper documents with lots of prayers..
I don't have a copy of my class schedules anymore, and so as my enrollment forms for 4 years. and most importantly, the clinical rotation schedule with dates and instructor's signature. 
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Thank you for the information! That's so true about the CA schools being difficult to find and the ones with no waiting list are fairly expensive.
The amount of international students and or nurses that are not only from the Phils but from other countries needing to retake MS and OB and Psych proves that those from the Phils wishing to bring legal action in the form of a lawsuit or some have mentioned a class-action suit against the CA BRN will not only lose their all monies for lawyers, but most important, lose the case in court.
It was stated by someone much earlier in another thread that a Filipino US lawyer looked into the CA BRN decision for months and found that the concurrency rules is valid and that the denied PH applicants do not have a leg to stand on.
Those claiming the unfairness or that the CA BRN is acting on a discriminatory basis against the PH alone is simply not true at all.
By seeing the various countries nursing schools are also lacking in their curriculums proves nothing more than the various countries are simply NOT meeting the States (CA in particular here) minimum educational requirements that's been set forth for over 25 years and in writing and fully disclosed to any and all applicants, if they read the policies and it's not being hidden or not mentioned at all.