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hi im currently taking mirco n psych lifespan i have chem left and nutrition im worried my gpa wont get that high i was going for pa but i got a c- twice in bio thats why i switched to nursing im in ny i hold a ba degree
Ask your counselor if the school offers academic forgiveness. It is a one time chance to wipe out bad grades that would prevent you from getting acccepted into any program. Some colleges only take grades from their own school into account for your GPA. Transfer courses are not averaged in just noted as pass/fail.[/quote']I had to academic forgiveness and I'm glad I had the option. Sadly you'll lose all of your grades, not just the bad ones. I had to retake everything.
@pooky. If you can't get your sh*t together to do well in any other kind of schooling what makes you think you've got it together for nursing. Surigical tech, pa, radiology tech, etc etc. In all of these you've got to give it your all, or you're not going to make it.[/quote']What you say is not valid, at all.
You may be able to apply with that GPA (most schools require either a 2.5 or 2.75 to apply) to be accepted? Your GPA needs to be much higher and there will be other applicants with a higher GPA.
See if you can retake some science courses. My program averaged everyone's science GPA and used that as a criteria for admission. Minimum GPA to apply was a 2.75 but unless you had at least a 3.5 when I applied, you were placed on a wait list. We had to have a C or better in all courses. We were allowed to retake a course once for a better grade but if we did not obtain a C or better the second time, you were not allowed to reapply to the nursing program until that first science course is at least 5 years old. Again, this was my nursing program, as all programs are different, but this is just to demonstrate how competitive they are.
With a 2.5 GPA, I think you'll find it very difficult to be accepted to ANY nursing school. I'm not saying that it is impossible for you to get into nursing school, rather I'm saying that you're going to have a much more difficult time of it. It probably is truly going to depend entirely upon the school's admissions policy. Some schools may required overall GPA that is greater than 2.5, with prerequisites greater than 3.0. I believe that this is the case with the school that I am currently in, they also require a TEAS greater than 67. The school is on a lottery system, however, they have a points system that qualifies you for that lottery. As long as you manage to reach a certain minimum score, you will be qualified for that lottery. Look for schools that have that, and therefore find a way for you to meet their minimum entry score into the lottery.
Once you're in the lottery, everyone has an equal chance of getting in, in theory. Someone who is maximally qualified has an equal chance as someone who is minimally qualified. So, the best chance you have is for you to find out what the minimum entry score is for the schools that you intend to apply to. Then find out if you meet those requirements. If you do not meet those requirements, do some research and find out what you need to do to meet those requirements. After that, all you have to do is actually DO it.
Good luck in your future endeavors, perhaps one day we will see you on the forum here stating "I got in!"
What harsh comments. Very sad we say A's and B's will cut it. As a instructor for a accelerated BSN the grades don't make the nurse. I have had students that strive for A's but make the worst clinicians because they cant apply the book to real life scenarios. You can be what ever you set your mind to it just may take some time and hard work to prove yourself. Perhaps talk to someone at your local nursing school and talk about options to make your dream a reality! Good luck.
Exactly!! I couldn't agree with you more!!
What harsh comments. Very sad we say A's and B's will cut it. As a instructor for a accelerated BSN the grades don't make the nurse. I have had students that strive for A's but make the worst clinicians because they cant apply the book to real life scenarios. You can be what ever you set your mind to it just may take some time and hard work to prove yourself. Perhaps talk to someone at your local nursing school and talk about options to make your dream a reality! Good luck.
While we can all anecdotally speak of instances where grades do not make the nurse (myself included; many of them going both ways), what is the solution? Just let everyone in who "really wants it" and says "I KNOW I can do it"? There needs to be a bar. If students who have very high GPAs are not accepted because they 'may not' be able to apply their theory clinically' what are we saying? Academia is based on objective numeric grades, whether we like it or not. I am sure every institution has their share of miracle stories (even the Ivy League schools) where they take a chance in someone, and it pans out. But what percentage of an admitting cohort should be below the requirement? Lets say we admit them. The next chapter of the story is "25% of the class failed, and we (students) don't know why..."
And again, when we go down this road, saying that nursing is not as hard as other disciplines, we are bringing the profession. I couldn't get into PA or med school,, so I'll just become a nurse instead.
While we can all anecdotally speak of instances where grades do not make the nurse (myself included; many of them going both ways), what is the solution? Just let everyone in who "really wants it" and says "I KNOW I can do it"? There needs to be a bar. If students who have very high GPAs are not accepted because they 'may not' be able to apply their theory clinically' what are we saying? Academia is based on objective numeric grades, whether we like it or not. I am sure every institution has their share of miracle stories (even the Ivy League schools) where they take a chance in someone, and it pans out. But what percentage of an admitting cohort should be below the requirement? Lets say we admit them. The next chapter of the story is "25% of the class failed, and we (students) don't know why..."And again, when we go down this road, saying that nursing is not as hard as other disciplines, we are bringing the profession. I couldn't get into PA or med school,, so I'll just become a nurse instead.
I understand your point and would never want to minimize my hard efforts and others in our profession -- however, I do not think that's what she is saying. Obviously we all honor and value the nursing profession as we wouldn't have pursued it. However, everything is not as black & white as you are saying. People who obtain A's are not necessarily someone who can master hand-on skills and have a pleasant bedside demeanor. I know, I have a student in my clinicals right now that she's a bumbling idiot with patients and she does beautifully in the classroom. Not a nurse I would have take care of me or family members in the future. She actually scares me! Anyhow, I just feel that because this OP struggles acedemically, I think lmccrn62 is just saying don't be negative and harsh and judge her as she could be excellent in a clinical setting if given the chance to get her academics in order. And I never heard anyone saying that nursing is not a hard discipline...we know otherwise (this is me now...lol). I just think as nurses, we need to be uplifting and not be discouraging, even someone is academically not succeeding. Let's face it, none of us are on the board in deciding if she gets a seat...lol. JMHO and the appropriate people will make the choice. I feel re-direction is the most effective here...and of course, encouragement.
To the OP -- seek help from your school. You may have be approved for accomodations in your classes. I always believe you shouldn't give up hope on your dreams...never!
I understand your point and would never want to minimize my hard efforts and others in our profession -- however, I do not think that's what she is saying. Obviously we all honor and value the nursing profession as we wouldn't have pursued it. However, everything is not as black & white as you are saying. People who obtain A's are not necessarily someone who can master hand-on skills and have a pleasant bedside demeanor. I know, I have a student in my clinicals right now that she's a bumbling idiot with patients and she does beautifully in the classroom. Not a nurse I would have take care of me or family members in the future. She actually scares me! Anyhow, I just feel that because this OP struggles acedemically, I think lmccrn62 is just saying don't be negative and harsh and judge her as she could be excellent in a clinical setting if given the chance to get her academics in order. And I never heard anyone saying that nursing is not a hard discipline...we know otherwise
(this is me now...lol). I just think as nurses, we need to be uplifting and not be discouraging, even someone is academically not succeeding. Let's face it, none of us are on the board in deciding if she gets a seat...lol. JMHO and the appropriate people will make the choice. I feel re-direction is the most effective here...and of course, encouragement.
To the OP -- seek help from your school. You may have be approved for accomodations in your classes. I always believe you shouldn't give up hope on your dreams...never!
I couldn't agree with you more. Nursing while I agree needs to have high standards we need as a profession to help guide the future of nursing. I have tutored my clinical students and most of the time it's not lack of knowledge but lack of confidence. Installing confidence and constructive feedback will either help them or make them realize they need to focus on a new career direction.
While we can all anecdotally speak of instances where grades do not make the nurse (myself included; many of them going both ways), what is the solution? Just let everyone in who "really wants it" and says "I KNOW I can do it"? There needs to be a bar. If students who have very high GPAs are not accepted because they 'may not' be able to apply their theory clinically' what are we saying? Academia is based on objective numeric grades, whether we like it or not. I am sure every institution has their share of miracle stories (even the Ivy League schools) where they take a chance in someone, and it pans out. But what percentage of an admitting cohort should be below the requirement? Lets say we admit them. The next chapter of the story is "25% of the class failed, and we (students) don't know why..."
And again, when we go down this road, saying that nursing is not as hard as other disciplines, we are bringing the profession. I couldn't get into PA or med school,, so I'll just become a nurse instead.
Over 30 yrs ago I thought i wanted to be a doctor. I was told by my high school counselor told me I wasn't smart enough. I was devastated and lost total confidence in myself. As a senior in high school I had no direction and I had a new counsellor. She told me she believed in me and that I could do whatever I put my mind to. She said it may not be a direct path but I had to make up my mind what I wanted. I found a love of the profession and being a doctor wasn't impossible but I make a better nurse. I worked hard doing what i needed to do. Not a day goes by I don't hear my counsellor cheering me on. I have just completed my post master certificate as a nurse practitioner, I have published research and a book on pain. So it's possible. Lets not eat our young but help mentor the future.
Over 30 yrs ago I thought i wanted to be a doctor. I was told by my high school counselor told me I wasn't smart enough. I was devastated and lost total confidence in myself. As a senior in high school I had no direction and I had a new counselor She told me she believed in me and that I could do whatever I put my mind to. She said it may not be a direct path but I had to make up my mind what I wanted. I found a love of the profession and being a doctor wasn't impossible but I make a better nurse. I worked hard doing what i needed to do. Not a day goes by I don't hear my counselor cheering me on. I have just completed my post master certificate as a nurse practitioner, I have published research and a book on pain. So it's possible. Lets not eat our young but help mentor the future.
If only that attitude was more pervasive... not just in nursing, but other career fields as well.
I understand your point and would never want to minimize my hard efforts and others in our profession -- however, I do not think that's what she is saying. Obviously we all honor and value the nursing profession as we wouldn't have pursued it. However, everything is not as black & white as you are saying. People who obtain A's are not necessarily someone who can master hand-on skills and have a pleasant bedside demeanor. I know, I have a student in my clinicals right now that she's a bumbling idiot with patients and she does beautifully in the classroom. Not a nurse I would have take care of me or family members in the future. She actually scares me! Anyhow, I just feel that because this OP struggles acedemically, I think lmccrn62 is just saying don't be negative and harsh and judge her as she could be excellent in a clinical setting if given the chance to get her academics in order. And I never heard anyone saying that nursing is not a hard discipline...we know otherwise
(this is me now...lol). I just think as nurses, we need to be uplifting and not be discouraging, even someone is academically not succeeding. Let's face it, none of us are on the board in deciding if she gets a seat...lol. JMHO and the appropriate people will make the choice. I feel re-direction is the most effective here...and of course, encouragement.
To the OP -- seek help from your school. You may have be approved for accomodations in your classes. I always believe you shouldn't give up hope on your dreams...never!
Best comment!! It makes sense and its not heartless and lacking empathy like most of these post SMH!
friendlyjane
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I'm am so sorry your brother died. Life's horrible events can have huge consequences on school life. I think your brother dying is not an excuse but an understandable reason to your slipping grades. You have good grades besides those few. So now you stand up, dust yourself off and retake those classes and make your brother proud. You can do this. I see people in my college classes drop out and I always think "Gosh can't people just get it together and try in college." Then I always remember that I don't know what is going on in there lives and I should not pass judgement. Is it likely that 75% of them are just slacking off, but the others might have crappy stuff going on in their lives and college is what has to take a back seat.
Like I said before you can do this. It seems you are determined and that shows a lot.
Good luck and my condolences on the loss of your brother.