interviewing with NP and Chief Nurse (air force) - page 4

I'm in the process of applying for the Air Force as a new BSN/RN grad, and I'm anxious about the interviews (as well as MEPS and COT). From what I have read and heard, the NP is a phone interview and... Read More

  1. by   SpookyCat
    Hey all,

    : I just interviewed last Tuesday with a Chief Nursing Officer. Don't stress. It wasn't any different than any other job interview with the exception that they do expect you to know a bit about the USAF itself. Actually because the Chief Nurse, where I interviewed was sooo awesome it didn't really feel like an interview. It felt more like I was meeting with another obviously "better ranked" recruiter. I did not have a phone interview not was I told that I need one. I was told that I won't find out until December 4th and will not go to COT until 8/23/2010. I won't graduate until May with my BSN and need the extra time to apply and take the NCLEX. Anyone else in same boat?
  2. by   adammRN
    Quote from carolinapooh
    A quick change of subject - don't let the "six twelves" while deployed scare you. I've been deployed (as a AF cop - and an RN has a posh job on a forward base compared to a K9 cop, trust me), and you really have nothing ELSE to do but work. Generally you work three, have a day off, and then work three, have a day off, etc. It sounds a lot worse than it is.
    You get into your little groove and your little routine and you just sort of do it.

    (I just could foresee someone really freaking out about that...LOL.)
    I was definitely freaking out about that. Being unable to do much else but work eat and sleep for a week (or 6 months of deployment) would be rough for anyone :/

    Quote from mobro
    your interview sounds far more intense than mine. i knew the core values and what they meant to me when i went in but wasn't even asked about that! mostly i was toured around and told what a great opportunity the air force is. i was told i'd be strongly recommended as well- i'm getting pretty excited now (definitely still have moments of "what am i thinking?!?!) but for the most part i'm excited and just ready to go. just waiting now i guess...and hoping for january COT...
    good luck! i'm glad it went well for you!
    I am hoping to get into the January COT as well. I still have those 'what am I thinking?" days, but in terms of doing anything else with this degree, I have found that this is the best option. I need to get out of my parents house!!!

    Quote from carolinapooh
    About the interviews - I've always found it interesting that what I considered the most important interview of my life was also pretty much the easiest and ended up being the least stressful (once it was underway, anyway!).
    I was more worried about getting their on time than the actual interview content. To be a nurse you have to be decent at improvisation.
    Last edit by adammRN on Oct 3, '09
  3. by   mobro
    does anyone know how often apps are rejected? i hate my current job and really want to quit but can't until i know that i'm accepted into the air force. i'm told the board will meet nov 11 and decide by nov 20- prior military folks, does that seem like it will actually happen or since it's close to thanksgiving might i not hear anything until december??
  4. by   adammRN
    Quote from mobro
    does anyone know how often apps are rejected? i hate my current job and really want to quit but can't until i know that i'm accepted into the air force. i'm told the board will meet nov 11 and decide by nov 20- prior military folks, does that seem like it will actually happen or since it's close to thanksgiving might i not hear anything until december??
    I was told by my recruiter, who served for 20 years, that he has never heard of or had a nurse being turned down :/
    Last edit by adammRN on Oct 4, '09
  5. by   carolinapooh
    I would expect that there WILL be RNs turned away as the number of applications increases with the tanking economy - my recruiter said the same thing but I still held my breath.

    With the board meeting so close to T-giving I would expect one of two things: either they'll rush to get results out before the holiday or they'll laze around until after Turkey day. So - either is a possibility, but I'd say December is more likely to happen.
  6. by   adammRN
    Quote from carolinapooh
    I would expect that there WILL be RNs turned away as the number of applications increases with the tanking economy - my recruiter said the same thing but I still held my breath.

    With the board meeting so close to T-giving I would expect one of two things: either they'll rush to get results out before the holiday or they'll laze around until after Turkey day. So - either is a possibility, but I'd say December is more likely to happen.
    But Newsweek announced the recession is over!
  7. by   mobro
    question...when the board meets do they make their decisions at the end of their week long 'session' or do they accept/reject people on a daily basis? just curious if i should be on pins and needles as of Nov. 11 when they meet or wait until the 20th to start jumping every time the phone rings.
  8. by   carolinapooh
    This is going to sound like a smart answer, and it's not meant to be - the board does what it wants how it wants to do it. And I don't think anyone but them knows for sure. What I do know is all results are released at the same time on the same day - HOW they reach their conclusions is a mystery.
  9. by   danegerous
    Can someone please spell out the process it took to get you all to this point? I am EXTREMELY nervous about even talking to a recruiter because the father-in-law has always said that a recruiter's job is to screw you (he was a grunt in the Marines).

    I am a 25 year old dude set to graduate with my BSN in decemeber 09. I am also married with a brand new baby, so this is really important that everything works out. Please give me the rundown. Does the starting salary actually go to me, or do all my "benefits" get deducted from that? Anything else I should know?

    Thanks guys, I'm really nervous and it would kill me if it didn't work out for my family. Thanks!

    Dane
  10. by   carolinapooh
    There are no benefit deductions in the military - except for things you choose, like your life insurance (and you'll never get $400K in coverage as cheap as you will in the AF), your GI Bill (which is a temporary deduction - I think it's still $100/mo for a year but someone may have more current information), and any other voluntary retirement contributions (called the Thrift Savings Plan, or TSP) or charitable contributions (through the Combined Federal Campaign, the CFC).

    Your health insurance is FREE as long as you're active duty (there is a deductible for outside- the-military-system health care, but it's stupidly, stupidly low), you will draw a housing allowance (BAH) based on your duty location and your dependents (for San Antonio, which is where I'm headed in a month, it's $1249/month) unless you live on base - in which case you don't draw the allowance but everything except your phone and cable (and some bases have basic cable included) is free. You will also draw $223/month for what is called Basic Allowance for Subsistence (BAS) (ie, groceries) - but this is only intended for the military member (even though two hundred a month is a good chunk and a good start for the grocery bill).

    ALL of these pays - your housing and your BAS - are NONTAXABLE allowances, so it's as though you're getting twenty-five percent more money than you're actually getting.

    So yes, essentially your take home pay goes to you - which as of 01 January will be $2745 for an O1 without prior service and this is subject to tax. (But think of the military in terms of your ENTIRE pay - which would actually be $2968 PLUS whatever your housing allowance is - if it were San Antonio, for example, your gross pay would be $3947 - and then they break down your taxes out of that). Remember - you will only pay your personal bills from your pay (car, clothes, etc) - your housing will be paid and you will have a big contribution to your groceries.

    You don't have to spend the whole housing allowance on rent or mortgage - if you find what you want for say $900 a month (which is what it's looking like in San Antonio for us), you pocket the difference - our housing allowance will come very close to paying EVERYTHING for us, including utilities.

    And there are other bennies as well - I just signed all our insurances over to USAA and our car insurance dropped by a whopping $500 every six months (yes, it dropped by that much!), I've gotten both of us an additional $250K each in life insurance with a guaranteed rate for the next thirty years for $56/month - for both of us - and I've set up a USAA checking account, which is completely free with free checks for life. You can join USAA as soon as you're accepted to COT.

    It bothers me when I read on this board how people say "I'm taking a pay cut to go into the military" just because their base pay might go down. What they're failing to realize is they won't be paying rent and all that other stuff out of that pay, and that any tax-free allowances are actually worth about 30% more. If they're taking a pay cut, I want to work where they're working!

    So here's the short answer - no, stuff doesn't get deducted unless you choose it, and actually, a whole lot of stuff gets added!

    I'm prior service Air Force and am leaving for COT in ONE WEEK (!!!).
  11. by   adammRN
    Damnit! I wish I were in your shoes! I am stuck in limbo right now and bored out of my skull waiting on this mystic board to make up their mind on whether they want to control my life or not!

    I never had a NP interview either. I can't remember if I was told if I would or wouldn't have one, it's been to freakin long!
  12. by   kato10
    As for the NP interview I think that is reserved mainly for the NPs coming in. I am waiting on my interviews and know I will definitely be doing the face to face and NP interviews as I'm a FNP.

    The board will not make decisions until Nov 11th since that is the ultimate deadline. If any corrections need to be done that is the cutoff. I would not anticipate an answer until the beginning of December. It looks like the July board didn't hear until the beginning of Sept.

    If ever in doubt as to how you will make out pay wise vs the civilian sector write it all out. The base pay, plus meal allowance, plus housing allowance, plus medical/dental benefits, plus free of state tax. Like I said I'm a NP now and will be very comparable entering the AF. Actually, if I go overseas I will do better since there shouldn't be any federal tax.
  13. by   carolinapooh
    Quote from kato10
    As for the NP interview I think that is reserved mainly for the NPs coming in. I am waiting on my interviews and know I will definitely be doing the face to face and NP interviews as I'm a FNP.

    The board will not make decisions until Nov 11th since that is the ultimate deadline. If any corrections need to be done that is the cutoff. I would not anticipate an answer until the beginning of December. It looks like the July board didn't hear until the beginning of Sept.

    If ever in doubt as to how you will make out pay wise vs the civilian sector write it all out. The base pay, plus meal allowance, plus housing allowance, plus medical/dental benefits, plus free of state tax. Like I said I'm a NP now and will be very comparable entering the AF. Actually, if I go overseas I will do better since there shouldn't be any federal tax.
    You will pay federal tax on your pay overseas because you are an employee of the federal government that is not tax-exempt. You will also pay state income tax if your state of residence requires it. The military is never tax-free on your base pay, only on allowances.

    I spent three years in Saudi Arabia, was deployed twice, and was once extended TDY to Germany. You will always be taxed overseas. Contractors aren't up to the first eighty thousand dollars, and private citizens working overseas aren't up to the first eighty grand, but the military always is.

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