I read a recent post regarding new graduates who cannot find work jumping on the NP bandwagon.
At work the other day, a new grad co-worker (less than 5 months experience) launched into a bitter tirade against a well known school for having the gall to expect her to have 2 years experience, have been involved in EBP, Committees and to have precepted before being allowed to even apply to join their ACNP program.....
Mind you, this nurse can barely handle her assignment... what makes her think that the NP is going to be an easy way out of floor nursing.... The courses take time and dedication and contrary to popular belief, graduation and subsequent employment are not a given..
I can respect your opinion in having a preference for seeing an MD/DO over a NP/PA. I do view it as only that - an opinion. I find it surprising that you are "not at all persuaded" by what many would consider strong evidence. It also leads me to wonder about (and fear) what other evidence, regarding more critical matters, you wouldn't be persuaded by.
In the near future, as the physician shortage grows, I wonder if you would encourage your loved ones to wait for necessary medical care rather than seeing one of us "mid-levels". For those of you who are so anti-NP/PA, i would love to hear your solution to filling the growing gap left by the physician shortage. Please enlighten me.
As one of the few urologic providers in several counties, I am more than aware of how appreciative my patients are to be able to see me, when they might otherwise wait weeks or longer to see the doctor. I know they also appreciate that i am available to see patients so that the surgeon can be freed up and more available to perform critical surgeries that I am not able to do. That being said, we do have a policy that our patients are allowed to see whom they prefer with the understanding that they will be scheduled based on availability.
All this being said, I also definitely agree that at the very least, NP education/curriculum needs to be standardized across the board.
Where did you do your urology residency? Or was it just OJT like every other NP "specialty"?
Nope just an RN not beguiled by the pomp and rhetoric of the strong handed nursing lobby.
Pomp and rhetoric? You were given a dozen studies to refute what is basically an uninformed opinion and challenged with finding just a single study to back you position, which you have not yet shared. And you have the gall to accuse the other side of the argument as pomp and rhetoric?
Where did you do your urology residency? Or was it just OJT like every other NP "specialty"?
Thank you for inquiring. No urologic nursing residency available, sadly. However, I have worked very closely with a urologic surgeon for the last 10 years of my nursing career prior to obtaining my FNP. I was also one of the few RNs in the state to obtain my urologic nursing certification as soon as I qualified to take the exam. I will sit for the urologic NP exam in October when I qualify. I know this will only earn a snide reply from you but wanted to respond to your question.
Thank you for inquiring. No urologic nursing residency available sadly. However, I have worked very closely with a urologic surgeon for the last 10 years of my nursing career prior to obtaining my FNP. I was also one of the few RNs in the state to obtain my urologic nursing certification as soon as I qualified to take the exam. I will sit for the urologic NP exam in October when I qualify. I know this will only earn a snide reply from you but wanted to respond to your question.[/quote'] Ok. See, that is my point. I think your experience as a RN must be extremely valuable to you, and that experience would be a factor in whether I would be comfortable seeing you or another NP for a urological issue.
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This seems like a great opportunity to scrutinize my own following bias: namely, that outside of a few exceptional circumstances, new grade straight to aprn is discrediting the profession and undeserving future patients. Having said that, how does the practice of similarly prepared new PA's compare? (ie a fresh PA who's only healthcare experience is PA school) If said PA would not elicit similar nail-biting, then why? Would it be more a case of artificially inflated perception vs a tangibly superior preparation? On a related tangent, how common are PA's without prior healthcare experience overall?
I refuse to see PA or NP!! No way No how. My cousin...BS degree in Athletic Training...got into PA program at South University, in Tampa. I think its one of those for profit schools...she grad's in May. smh...
Pomp and rhetoric? You were given a dozen studies to refute what is basically an uninformed opinion and challenged with finding just a single study to back you position, which you have not yet shared. And you have the gall to accuse the other side of the argument as pomp and rhetoric?
You are right, a few studies negate physician training and residencies because clearly NPs are just as good or better. When should med schools start closing down? Obviously NPs are immensely cheaper with a lot lower barrier to entry. MDs are definitely just cost drains. C'mon....
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Thank you. It was difficult to refrain from pointing that one out, too.