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Male Chiropractor considering nursing...advice please :)
The program is strong and doable. So far, so good. Your best bet is to contact ***** and ******, who is the admission point man for the program. Tell him ****** sent you. He is very nice and will give you all the answers you need. Good luck
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Christian International School of Healthcare Professions
Oh please, I am so tired of people on this site offering opinions discouraging students from going to a private for profit school. Really, try to see beyond the bad press...did you ever think it is from competitors with deeper pockets? The plus side for these programs (and can you really prove to me what a diploma mill is in nursing?) is they have no waiting lists, smaller classroom size, and believe it or not, its a great way to get your RN. The curriculum standards and required pass rates percentages to maintain state BON programmatic approval is the same as the ACEN and CCNE. Low pass rates affect the schools as much as the student. It is no one's best interest to have low pass rates. Also, new nursing programs can not even consider applying for nursing accreditation with ACEN or CCNE until they have been operating for 2 years. Until then, they have to maintain strong BON programmatic approval and pursue regional accreditation. I think the biggest word of caution to any nursing applicant out there would be to avoid a school, public or private, that prevents you from gaining your degree if you do not pass the exit exam. I have seen that happen and it is a complete rip off. Exit exams for graduation is a discretionary policy and is not mandated by any accrediting agency, nursing or otherwise.
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another chiropractor thinking of RN then to NP
kansasdc So what kind of head way have you made with either Baylor or TCU accelerated program?
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Male Chiropractor considering nursing...advice please :)
Herzing is where I am now and its full of DC's in the FNP track. No prior clinical experience required, however, your clinical during school often counts anyways. Hope this helps
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South University FNP MSN program???
Hi Nicshacat03, I don't completely understand your question. You are pretty far "in" the program by the 5th quarter aren't you. Transferring at this point might be difficult, unless you found out otherwise. Are you in an online master's program already? Oh and by the way, I left South's program and enrolled into Herzing's program. Good luck!
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South University FNP MSN program???
Most are.
- Herzing University FNP program?
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South University FNP MSN program???
I am glad you are finding the program at South to your liking. However, my story is far from "atypical". The school is still under investigation for wrongful practices and the instructors I had were nasty (Maze and Kostrweski). Oh well, I suppose for all the students that are satisfied, there are probably just as many that are dissatisfied and left. How else to explain the 62% attrition rate? Best wishes to you.
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South University FNP MSN program???
Okay, so this is going to be my final post on South University's MSN-FNP program because I withdrew from this program. I was in the program for two course, and because the school is on the quarter system (and most schools are on the semester system), my courses did not transfer. But that is okay with me. It is worth it. For the last two months, I've been beating my head trying to figure out what was wrong with the Masters of Science in Nursing program at South University. Something wasn't clicking...the instructor(s) and advisor(s) seemed uninterested, aloof and not engaged. I'm a serious student, I'm passionate about furthering my nursing education. But I just couldn't figure out what was wrong. I mean the recruiter was so very cheerful. I just couldn't figure out what was wrong. Instructors seemed to be working absent any direction. The grading criteria changed at the whim of the individual instructor. The grading was based on minutia, a comma here, a wrong indentation, unusual and non measurable grading. And the instructors know this. The e-learning platform was more than robust; it was a high intensity, incredibly demanding and confusingly written. A canned content rich, maze of a program by Pearson E College. And I could never get a straight answer from anyone. And that was just the first class. I figured the second one couldn't be as unpredictable. I was wrong. It was worse. More of the same--and then some. But this time I ran into a rogue instructor who made up the rules as she went, grading harshly, and not using the published grading rubric. And no matter what I said, not matter what I evidenced, no one, not the instructor nor the advisor would help, resolve or correct. Or listen. Or care. And I still couldn't figure out what was wrong...Until I got a chance to read the Wikipedia site for South University. Now I know people out there say Wikipedia is not always accurate, but I referenced what was written and it was all factual. Then everything fell into place. Because it is apparent to me that student success isn't the object of South. Student enrollment is. Initial student enrollment is. And don't confuse enrollment with competition or graduation. In my humble opinion it's all about getting their hands on free money: student loans...on the front end. Why would no one care if the learning process was chaotic (at best)? Why would the school not care if students were dropping out like flies? Follow the money...Again, in my opinion they want students to drop out. They want students to get frustrated with the (lack of) educational controls and just quit after obtaining their student loans and the school(s) getting their money. They get to keep disproportionate amount of the student loan. They charge by the term, only 4-6 weeks long and if you don't withdraw after only 3 days from the start of the course, they get to keep a large portion of the funds. Think about it. At first when I read the Wikipedia post, I didn't get it. Until I re-read it. And there it was: South is owned by EDMC (Educational Management Corp)...which is almost half owned by Goldman Sachs. Last time I looked Goldman Sachs is about as far from higher education as it gets. But it's not that Goldman Sachs is involved. It was the drop out rate for EDMC's entire portfolio: a whopping 62 percent. The national average is 42 percent. But there's no way to deny that EDMC's schools have a really high dropout rate. Read the Wikipedia post. There are multiple federal lawsuits and whistle blowers who came for the to call attention to EDMC practices. In January 2014, EDMC was among several for profit schools approached by approximately a dozen attorneys general for information in an investigation of their practices. So what is in it for South to have such a large drop out rate? My guess and this is only my opinion, is that they are betting on federal loan money on the frontend It's a numbers game for them. So as for me, and maybe you, after all my hard work, my commitment to professionalism, I really do not want my name associated with a degree from this school But as the old Chinese proverb goes...A dozen attorney generals can't be wrong.
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PLEASE Consider Repution of your NP Program!!
Correction: FNP programs are not allowed for students who reside in the state of NY. If you live in NY and want to attend an online program, you need to declare and evidence your residency from another state. After you attain your degree, you can move back to NY and practice.
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South University FNP MSN program???
Don't go. It's a "canned" program with many third rate instructors masquerading with degrees in edication. The administration allows indescretionary grading differences among instructors. There is no consistency among teaching and grading methods. Overall, the school is like going to a sketchy department store where your passed from one person to the next, when trying to resolve a problem. Finally, you just give up. Bottom line: spend your good money somewhere else. This school is third rate at best.
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South University online NP?
Fyi do not go to this school i am matirculating to a better, faster, friendlier program. I blame the instructors and the terrible e-learning platform they use (pearson e-college). They are horrible, unprofessional, and fail to follow university grading policies. Considered yourself warned! Many of my peers are leaving this program to other ones. If you are going to enroll, i recommend you pay out of pocket before you give them your student loan money. That way, if you disenroll, they will not hold back more of your student load tuition. Do what i did and pay month to month with no money down.
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GN to NP in <1yr
Drranger: Are you an MD crawling around here under cover?
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South University online NP?
You husband, a chiro like me hehe (that's what I recall)
- Chiropractor looking for a night/weekend RN or LPN program in Kansas City