Does it make sense to stay a nurse if there is a predicted glut in 2025?
We already know plenty of people are trying to become nurses.
I see on Allnurses where many do not think these people cannot handle the schoolwork,
but i know for a fact that many of them are actually succeeding.
I would say 90% of the people i know who wanted to become nurses in the last 5 years have succeeded.
I will only be 43 in 2025. I have been a nurse since 2004,and have never really worked outside of nursing(besides being a Cna)
I will also have 21 years in nursing if i stay in 2025.
Of course,i can get a Bsn to stay competitive,but i do wonder if that will be enough.
It might get so competitive that employers might ask for something else or they might have even more stringent requirements(such as 1 year med surg experience) that i do not have.
She was so resentful of it. I can see being resentful if you had proven yourself for years as a loyal amd competent employee but that was what she signed up for, as a grad nurse straight into ICU.
Honestly, I had a bit of a cry me a river response.
She should be grateful she was hired into the ICU as a new grad with an ADN. It costs a hospital a lot of money to train a new graduate nurses. It's completely fair for the hospital then to require the RN to obtain additional education. Plus, I don't know why a nurse would resent further education. I would gladly work in a hospital that supported my academic endeavors.
She should be grateful she was hired into the ICU as a new grad with an ADN. It costs a hospital a lot of money to train a new graduate nurses. It's completely fair for the hospital then to require the RN to obtain additional education. Plus, I don't know why a nurse would resent further education. I would gladly work in a hospital that supported my academic endeavors.
Because she felt like many others that her ADN education (school, not continuing or on the job) was sufficient for the position. I believe she already had a bachelors in another field.
Maybe it was but her employer has a right to require a BSN IMO.
While there may be an oversupply of nurses in 2025- there will also be an oversupply of baby-boomers with severe, advanced disease needing care. If wages stagnate or actually fall, I see A LARGE NUMBER of nurses heading for the hills. Many do this within a few years as things are now-- that will only get worse if working conditions continue to decline.
While there may be an oversupply of nurses in 2025- there will also be an oversupply of baby-boomers with severe, advanced disease needing care. If wages stagnate or actually fall, I see A LARGE NUMBER of nurses heading for the hills. Many do this within a few years as things are now-- that will only get worse if working conditions continue to decline.
I do wonder how many would stay nurses if the starting hourly pay was $15/hr.
Truth be told,i would be pretty pissed if i got the Bsn and then told my starting pay would be $20/hr(if i were to leave my employer).
In the current job market in most places? Experience doesn't mean as much as it used to- many nurses, experienced and not, are competing for the same jobs. Some facilities are opting to go with the bottom line and hire the new nurse at a much lower salary. Others may prefer a nurse with some experience but not enough to command top dollar. With employers being able to by picky about who they hire, whatever one can do to get an edge (certifications, higher education, etc) is in one's best interests in remaining a competitive applicant.
And that's a shame b/c studies shows that experience affects patient outcomes more so than education.
Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
I looked into both BSN and MSN programs and the MSN required more time and effort on my part and costs way more. To each its own. You could not pay me to get my MSN. I have no desire to get it.
I could have done RN to MSN in a total of 44 credits and two years at the University of Arizona online. I know several RNs doing exactly that right now. The cost is much higher but not a factor for me since my employer will pay up to $37K for their nurses to get degrees.
The great thing about some of these RN to MSN program is they don't care what classes you have taken. Have an associates degree from an acredited program?, Have >3.0 GPA?, have one of two years nursing experince? Have an active RN license? If the answer to all these questions is yes then BOOM! You are in and can start the program. They don't make you go back to community college and take 3 credits of this and 4 credits of that BEFORE they let you start their program.
I want to stay at the bedside for the rest of my nursing career.
I don't like being a supervisor either; but demonstrating some leadership skills helped me get an acute care position-I plan, when getting enough experience, having charge nurse duties as well...I have found ways to remain competitive.
So her 10+ years of Nursing EXPERIENCE isn't competitive? The push towards a BSN is poppycock. She won't learn anything in a BSN that will remotely compete with 10yrs of experience.
In this market as well as the market the OP lives in and is in a neighboring state of mine, I am more competitive than the OP due to my experience making policies and having some leadership experience.
Even in ones position, being able to be a preceptor/educating peers, gives one an advantage than "just" bedside experience; if one is teaching or educating by the beside; they have taken their "bedside experience" and made themselves competitive and open to other possibilities, IF the OP wants them; otherwise, it will be up to them to decide where they want to take their career.
We need stricter standards to become a nurse. It is way too easy now with all of the for-profit institutions vomiting out nurses that have unlimited attempts to pass the NCLEX.
A 3.87 GPA (in the required pre-req courses) with a strong science background was barely enough to get me into my ADN program 19 years ago.
All I would have to do now is write a check.
Nurses are like Beanie Babies. Produce too many of them and they quickly become worthless.
Gee, I didn't realize all I had to do was write a check. What school is that? Perhaps I could transfer.
The PPACA is not socialist medicine. It operates under an insurance model (consumers can choose from multiple insurance providers). "Socialist medicine" would be a single-payer/universal healthcare system.
For pre-nursing students, I suggest going straight for the BSN, if possible. I live in California and a lot of hospitals no longer take ADNs (I don't agree with this but since the market is saturated with new nurses, hospitals can take their pick). I'm a new graduate MSN RN who went through a direct-entry MSN program. I don't regret my decision to go for the MSN. On top of the traditional clinical nursing curriculum, I also took classes in graduate-level research, financial management, informatics, and leadership. I think it'll offer me more opportunities for advancement in the future.
Oh it is so socialistic. Government mandated and taxpayer subsidized. That's redistribution of wealth. That's socialism.
I don't like being a supervisor either; but demonstrating some leadership skills helped me get an acute care position-I plan, when getting enough experience, having charge nurse duties as well...I have found ways to remain competitive.
Well excuse me for wanting to stay at the bedside.
I already said I do not have the personality to be a leader.
What was i thinking when i entered nursing.(sarcasm)
What the heck does having leadership skills and being a charge nurse have to do with anything?
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She should be grateful she was hired into the ICU as a new grad with an ADN. It costs a hospital a lot of money to train a new graduate nurses. It's completely fair for the hospital then to require the RN to obtain additional education. Plus, I don't know why a nurse would resent further education. I would gladly work in a hospital that supported my academic endeavors.