Why many new grads don't find jobs.... - page 2

While eating breakfast at a local diner in my scrubs, my waitress was excited to share the news that she, "finished my CNA clinicals yesterday!!" "Great! How was it?" I asked. She starts nursing... Read More

  1. by   RunnerRN2015
    [QUOTE=RCBR;6510976]"I finished CNA clinicals".

    I didn't even know there was such a thing as a CNA clinical

    We had to do 40 hours of clinicals at a LTC facility for my CNA course. Don't most CNA courses require actual hands-on hours?
  2. by   grownuprosie
    Quote from RCBR
    "I finished CNA clinicals".

    I didn't even know there was such a thing as a CNA clinical.
    I had to have 40 hours to get my CNA certificate. Maybe it varies by state?
  3. by   *4!#6
    I work in a hospital and know several nurse managers and still can't get a job
  4. by   pecanpies
    Quote from Not_A_Hat_Person
    After I finished my first semester, I asked my advisor how to challenge my state's CNA exam. [...] I finally found out how to challenge the exam 2 weeks before I graduated.
    Just curious - what do you mean by "challenge the exam"? Maybe it's a state thing or I'm just having a burned-out-nursing-student-brain moment!
  5. by   grownuprosie
    Quote from pecanpies
    Just curious - what do you mean by "challenge the exam"? Maybe it's a state thing or I'm just having a burned-out-nursing-student-brain moment!
    In some cases, you may be licenses as a CNA by taking the exam without having ever completed an official course. It is my understanding that this only works in states where there is no clinical component to the certification.
  6. by   modernhippie_
    I worked for almost three years in an oncologist office during nursing school, but that is the only healthcare experience I have. I just graduated with my BSN last week and even though I have been applying for jobs since January, I have had no interviews or offers to date. What else do hiring managers look for? I did not include my GPA on my resume because it is a 3.088 and I don't know if that would defer them from contacting me.
  7. by   AZMOMO2
    Some nursing students can apply for the CNA state exam after the first semester of nursing school. similarly to those schools that allow RN students to apply for the LPN boards after the first year of school.
  8. by   CinDRnyc
    Quote from grownuprosie
    i had to have 40 hours to get my cna certificate. maybe it varies by state?
    i live in arizona and starting a cna course at my community college tomorrow and the program requires 28 hours in ltc, 42 hours in acute care, and 24 hours on-campus clinical. i am surprised that some states don't require clinical time. when do you learn the skills???

    job networking, experience, and increasing my comfort level around patients are all reasons why i'm doing the cna program and getting the certificate. i was also told by a friend who is an rn that it really helps in having a better relationship with your cna's and knowing how to delegate properly because you yourself know what it's like to work as one.
    Last edit by CinDRnyc on May 21, '12 : Reason: typo
  9. by   canadiandude
    Quote from RCBR

    This is a rather radical statement. Imagine a nursing grad with a BSN from a reputable university with a 3.8 GPA, extensive clinical rotations and superb faculty recommendations and another nursing grad from an obscure community college with a 2.2. GPA who failed several semesters and is on her 3rd attempt at the NCLEX but has 3 years of hospital experience as a tech. Who would you hire if you were the nursing manager?
    You nailed it. Absolutely agree. With BSN from good uni its the clinical references that count. If I wanted to do CNAs work I wouldnt have applied to BSN program
  10. by   commonsense
    Welcome to the entrance of the millennial generation into the work force. Too many young people these days expect to graduate and be given a five star job with the salary of someone who's been doing the job for 10+ years. New parents and people raising young children, take notice, there are negatives to telling your child they are amazing when they are not and rewarding your child's 12th place sports team with a trophy, it's called entitlement.
  11. by   grownuprosie
    commonsense, Please don't tell them. Their ridiculous expectations are my job security.
  12. by   ArrowRN
    "Challenging the state exam" is not such a big deal. It simply means You can get the CNA license simply by taking the same examination that everyone else takes, without completing a state approved course. You don't even have to be in first semester nursing school or have any medical experience at all to do this, just practice on your own. The written and clinical portions of the exam are still required to be taken. No clinicals i think refers to if you are asking for an endorsement, i.e you are already a CNA in another State and just moving to a new state. Here in Florida you can take the CNA test up to 3 times and of you fail the 3 rd time only then you will be required to take a state approved course.
    You do not need someone to tell you how to challenge the CNA, just go the your states official department of health website in the license section all the information is on there. like just google yourstate CNA.
    I'm just transitioning to nursing from a non-nursing career and my wife is a CNA,just got her first job after 2 years (well she was pregnant, so that was a 1 plus gone) and I'm gonna have her show me some tips, then I going to take the test and use CNA as a way to make the transition, only it sucks cause once I do become a CNA my pay will be cut in half but hopefully its for the greater good.
    To self train there's a bunch of CNA videos on youtube and google that shows how to do the skills part and a thread on allnurses also has videos.
    I don't know if this post was a question but for some,not all, I'm sure its a case of "beggars can't be choosers." in other words take what u can get, complain and stress about it for 1 year then move on with your new found EXPERIENCE...heck i'd mop and clean toilets in a hospital if it counts as hospital experience...lol maybe it won't count, but u get my point.
    As far as resumes a lot of people are forgetting we are in the electronic age...if your resume is missing keywords pertaining to your job, the computer will not select it in its initial search...or do people really think recruiters still sit and read all 500 plus applications that they receive on a daily basis. Search the internet and read up on resume keywords, find ways to stand out from the crowd.
  13. by   Wild Irish LPN
    Quote from windowrn
    While I agree that having a job in healthcare while in nursing school can be a great in for a job, I don't think this statement is true. There are absolutely reasons for a hiring manager to choose a new grad without experience over one who has experience in health care.
    I agree completely....I am about to graduate my program with very high reviews of my clinical performance, as well as the class Valedictorian....and I managed to di this without one minute as a CNA or in any other medical capacity....I was by far in the minority in my class, with most being former or current CNA's....I learned how vital of a role the CNA is in a facility, and have a tremendous amount of respect for them....that is very hard work, work that I had to learn while I learned the art of nursing....that is where my problem is, at least with the group of classmates that are CNA's....the problem is that they think and act as if they are still a CNA, not nursing students....they would rather chase a brief change or get a patient some water rather than practice their assessment skills, patient education and med knowledge....that isn't a criticism, it is a fact....hard habits are hard to break and while their intention and heart are totally in the right places, they have forgotten that they are nursing students first and foremost....having no habits to break, or a marriage to the CNA job itself has, in my opinion helped me a great deal....