Physical assessment.... - page 2
Well, we spent all day in lab today covering the basics of physical assessment....Of course being a male, it became obvious my female partner wasn't going to let me listen to posterior lung sounds in... Read More
Sep 2, '06Wow, I think that girl is being very unprofessional and would definatly say something about it to the instructor because that just isn't fair to the other classmates who are trying to learn.
I personally as a women have no problem with a male inspecting or listening to any part of my body in class. I wear a sports bra to PA class, it's as simple as that, everything is covered.
We have a lot of males in my nursing program, none of the girls have this problem at all. I was having to shove my breast out of the way the other day (I have big breasts) so one of the guys could see my PMI and listen to all my heart sounds. I have a murmer so everyone in class was trying to listen! LOL
Sep 2, '06This is my first semester as a nursing student. I got paired up with a male and I had a week of OMG this is just not comfortable for anyone involved. Second week we had to show up in sports bras and shorts for posterior and anterior thorax assesment. I want to get a good grade and I want to learn how to do the assessment correctly so my sensitivities went by the wayside. My instructor also reminded us that as nurses we are often going to make people feel exposed and vulnerable and the important thing is to be thorough and expediant (minimize exposure and discomfort, while accomplishing our job of assessment).
OK I am going off on a tangent, but try to talk to your partner about the discomfort first and if she is still unwilling to let you get your practice in, maybe you can see about switching partners to someone more willing to work with you.
Sep 2, '06I am sorry you had problems. I hope that I can keep a open mind when it comes my turn. I think that having worked in the medical field before that I do not feel that I will have a problem "sharing my body" for practice. I am nervous that other students may have a problem sharing theirs...
Sep 3, '06That's the catch, the instructors often say "well, if you have nieces/nephews, oh well find your loved one to listen to their heart"...well, hate to break it to you, some of us are single(happily) at the moment! Well, my family lives a ways away, and I'm just having to awkwardly ask friends to listen to sounds. Of course, it'll be a great icebreaker next week at the party. "hey, how are you? Mind if I listen to your heart?" LOL It's just like it doesn't feel condusive to the males at the moment, but being that last week was only the 2nd week, I could understand. We'll see if things get better by week 3/4, outside of that, busy studying today, so see you all tomorrow sometime.
Sep 3, '06I can't tell you how annoyed I get when I hear about a lack of learning opportunities for the guy nurses and all the B.S. they go through in nursing school. I'm a female but an older new nurse, so I remember when doctors were all male, especially GYN and OB. I bet THEY never had a problem getting training. This is garbage and your instructors need to step up to the plate. And just to show you that I put my money where my mouth is, when I had major surgery not long before nursing school, I accepted a male student nurse because I thought "If I don't, who will?" Truthfully, there were moments when I was a tiny bit uncomfortable but just because I sensed that HE was... but I was glad to help out. From my perspective, one more person who sees my backside will not be damaging to ME (may scare HIM right out of nursing- but I'd be fine!). :wink2:
Sep 3, '06The student I usually partner up with in class is a male (the only one in my class) and when we practice physical assesments he just had me place the stethoscope for the ones near the breasts, but did it himself for bowel sounds. He said he doesn't have a problem doing it to a patient he doesn't know, but he felt unfortable with it being me. But this way he still got to hear the sounds. By the way, I didn't just place the scope where I wanted it, I asked it where he wanted it. I would have let him do the assessment himself, but this was what actually made HIM feel more comfortable.
Sep 3, '06I agree with Tweety, talk to your professors about your issue. I'd have to say good bye to her and find a willing lab partner.
As for me...when I first had to learn rapid assessment in medic school I had a particularly "well endowed" female classmate "Tina"...and when it came time to show and verbalize what I was doing...it came out as "breast sounds"...I was a little nervous...
Don't worry about it...best of luck to you. After you do it enough, it becomes old hat and you just do what you have to do. Best of luck to you!!
Smilin' from Texas