We make SO much $$$ - page 4
My whining on the "What's wrong with nursing management?" thread reminded me of a funny story. I was just a few weeks out of my ICU orientation, and I was talking to a family during visiting... Read More
Oct 2, '02Occupation: RN in Quality Dept/Case Mgt Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 447; Likes: 20Originally posted by RoaminHankRN
I used to be one that complained about not making enough. But as the years go by, you ask how much is enough? Every one complains they don't make enough but never give an amount that would be fair. If we raised the basic salary to $30/hr for every nurse, there would be someone who would say that is not enough. If you make more an hour will that make your job less stressful? As some say, be glad you have a job that pays. At least you have done something with your life and make a difference.
On another point, how is the nursing profession going to approach management demanding better pay when we can't even get along or agree with others on "many" issues. We are a profession divided that needs to come together and quit the bickering and back stabbing. Act like a professional and you will be paid like one.
Love to all....
Oct 2, '02Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 562; Likes: 128Mind you, if I wanted to be a millionaire, I wouldn't have picked nursing... I knew what I was in for when I started out. I make a decent living.
I made more than my dad last year... he is a labour lawyer for a small firm. But still, to be making more than him was a good feeling. Perverse, but satisfying.
Oct 2, '02Occupation: RN Specialty: 7 year(s) of experience in ICU, nutrition ; Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 905; Likes: 281I'm not looking to become a millionaire either. But I think it's reasonable to get paid an amount that's fair according to our responsibility. It just kills me when I hear one of the doctors complain that they don't make enough money, when I don't come even close to what the general surgeons or family physicians make. I just wish we got paid a bonus for each "save" we make. I haven't been doing this for that long and I already have a list of instances when my assessment has saved the MDs butt, and a shorter (thank God) list of "if only Dr. So&So had listened when I called, this wouldn't have happened."
Oct 2, '02Occupation: PCU/TELE Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 489; Likes: 13Just wondering - What do stock brokers start out with in those states? [/B][/QUOTE]
All I know is that my sister is an MD working only 10 hrs. a week at this time and her hubby is a stock broker and they live in a million dollar home, driving a brand new Toyota SUV and a Nissian Maxima, belong to the local swim club and country club, AND vaction at least 4 times a year. I guess he's making out O.K.
Oct 2, '02Occupation: Circulating RN Specialty: MS, LTC, Post Op, New OR Nurse. ; Joined: Mar '01; Posts: 376; Likes: 266I am getting paid a whopping $10.36 to stand on my feet for 10 plus hours and put up with Dr.'s who think that women and nurses and esp. women nurses are stupid....geeze!
Oct 3, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Oct '00; Posts: 2,662; Likes: 46<If we raised the basic salary to $30/hr for every nurse, there would be someone who would say that is not enough.>
Thirty dollars an hour ISNT enough for the work I do & the expertise gained from doing it for 20 yrs. But maybe $30/hr is a decent starting point for a new grad. We have interns who complain that RNs earn more than them but they quickly shut up when they are reminded that the RNs top salary after 20 years is less than his starting salary will be when hes is an attending. Hes complaining now about his salary but he knows he will be moving up. The RNs salary is stagnated & hasnt changed in 10 yrs.
That aside, I dont think we should be paid in dollars & cents by the hour anyway, unless we are charging the hospital & insurance companies for our services by the hour & then I would charge $125/hr for the critical work I do. (My mechanic charged me $85/hr just for the labor to change my front brakes last week -cause his skills are valuable.)
Secondly, our services should be itemized on the hospital bill - not lumped in as Room & Board - so we can actually see how much the facility is charging the pt for us. Only when we actually know what the hospital is being paid for our services, can we start to figure out what a fair wage might be for ourselves. Right now, we have no idea. Throw in the fact that there are nurses with different degrees & different levels of education & who knows what nurses should be paid.
But I disagree with "act like a professional & youll be paid like one" Nurses can act as professional as Lillian Wald & nothing has ever been handed to them merely because of it. Nurses have always had to demand & fight for everything they deserve & everything they now have, no matter how professional they acted it wasnt just handed to them on a silver platter. It is still a struggle to be compensated & treated fairly.Last edit by -jt on Oct 3, '02