Socialized Medicine/Nursing - page 6
Hi everyone. I am especially interested in how nurses are treated in the UK and Canada. I feel the US is moving more and more toward socialism, more taxes, more regulations, more government... Read More
Jul 12, '00Occupation: RN Joined: Apr '00; Posts: 184; Likes: 9Yes PPL I do feel punch drunk some days. It's actually a personal philosophy of mine. If I don't laugh at it I'm gonna cry so I'd rather see the funny side to it, and I do see it as hysterically funny some times. Not everyone likes that though. Ha! Ha!
PPL I'd be afraid to give YOUR government that kind of cash too! Ha! Ha! It's all what your used to and brought up believing in I guess. All I can say is that the government actually helped me there. People seemed to have more of an impact or influence on the government there too. What else did we have to do there all day during those cold winters eh?
Jul 13, '00Occupation: RN Joined: Jun '00; Posts: 179; Likes: 5Bunky, you are a true goofball! Promise me that when and if you go back to Canada, you'll give us the scoop from that side of the border too! You know, any changes, or improvements, and/or decline in the situation.
Jul 14, '00Joined: Jul '00; Posts: 11,351; Likes: 388I am a nursing student in BC and can relate to what snickers was talking about. I can't believe the doctors (whose average take home pay was 150 000 a year) were willing to walk out. Nurses had to strike to get a measly few dollars.
I have to disagree with what was said about a decrease in the number of students going into nursing. Our class is the largest ever at our Uni. Septembers new group will be even bigger because the gov't gave some extra money for more seats. The reason it doesn't seem like there are many students is because it's only recently that nursing has become a good profession to enter. 3 years ago I had people telling me I was crazy to be considering it, now I'm guaranteed a job when I graduate.
The government does need to make more spaces for university students (almost 300 applied for the 60 seats this year) and start keeping them. The brain drain is taking a lot of nurses because we need the money.
BUT, I lived in the States and I don't want to have a system like that here. With nurses as underpaid as they are I'm surprised so many like for profit care. I make about
12000 a year at my after school job. If we didn't have the system we do I'd be broke paying for meds that I need to take for the rest of my life.
I really like this site. Good info and interesting ideas
Dec 22, '08Occupation: CEN RN STAFF NURSE Specialty: 25 year(s) of experience in ER,ICU,L+D,OR ; From: US ; Joined: Aug '08; Posts: 918; Likes: 539Outlooks toward health care financing is an ever going discussion
Dec 22, '08Joined: Jan '06; Posts: 1,970; Likes: 7,532Here's my take on it. Yes, I pay higher taxes than someone in the States does.
But - if I get hit by a bus on my way home from work today, and need hospitalization, I don't have to worry about huge hospital bills.
I have a medical condition that requires frequent surgeries - they would cost me a fortune in the States, because from what I understand of your insurance plans, I probably would not be covered. I would have to choose- high medical bills or risk losing use of one of my eyes.
we get pts who have required hospitalization in the States and have had to return home to Canada for rehab,etc. They tell me that the care is much different there, because the hospitals are run for profit so the staffing levels are much different and even the whole approach to nursing is different.
As for your question about why nurses go down - some go down to get away from our lovely Canadian winters , others go because they can make more money with less taxes. However, I know several nurses who went to the States and couldn't wait to get back home because they couldn't deal with having to charge their pts for everything.
Oops - didn't realize this was such an old thread. My bad
Dec 22, '08Occupation: hospital floor nurse. Specialty: acute care, rehab, palliative ; From: CA ; Joined: Oct '04; Posts: 7,256; Likes: 10,968The government funds the health care up here but they don't run it.