Should teachers be CPR certified? - page 4

I was wondering if any of you think that teachers should be certified in CPR. A little girl in a neighboring town died last month while at school. My friend, who is a paramedic, said that chances... Read More

  1. by   RN2B2005
    I apologise for seeming to be flaming someone, specifically deespoohbear.

    I was pointing out that teachers and school administrators aren't to blame for a lack of CPR training to someone who clearly thinks they are. The fact that anyone could think that teachers or school administrators are paid too much (and that cuts in their salaries would leave lots of money left over for school nurses, CPR training, etc.) absolutely knocked me off of my chair. This, to me, is as ridiculous as saying that if all the charge nurses and nurse supervisors at a hospital took pay cuts, the hospital would have enough of X supply or staff member. The nurses aren't the problem--just as administrators aren't the problem in most school district.

    The school district my husband works for is very lucky, blessed with a good tax base and willing voters. Still, the state grabs for what money it can get--freezing raises for five years, or per-student spending for two years, for instance. If the voters don't make up the difference, the money isn't there for anything but the basics.

    I'm going to take my grouchy self and find another cup of coffee. Let us know how that whole idea of having the hospital donate CPR classes to teachers goes, ShandyLynn.
  2. by   DeeDee71
    This is my 3rd year as a school nurse, in the district I work in every school has a nurse or health aide who is CPR certified. We also have a district nurse that travels between buildings as needed. We offer CPR training in every building every year, but can only train 8 teachers at a time. I try to keep all my teachers spread out with at least one CPR certifed teacher in each hallway. In doing this I hope to avoid needing someone on the other end of the building to start CPR. All teachers in my building are also required to be trained in using an epipen every school year. I wish I were able to have an epipen in each hallway too but with the cost of epipens and now the cut backs I don't see that happening anytime soon. Our teachers would be covered under the states Good Sam law.
    Also the state of Missouri does not require nurses to prove CPR certification before renewing your lisence I do think that would be a good thing though.
  3. by   littlemack
    Most definitely teachers should be certified in Basic Life Support and also First Aid. I do wonder though, where was the school nurse during this situation?
  4. by   SmilingBluEyes
    An unequivocal YES here...if military, daycare providers and many factory workers are required to have this important skill, why NOT teachers? Like many, I thought it was a job requirement and am disappointed to hear it is not. Crazy.
  5. by   nurseleigh
    I thought they were too. IT is sad that they aren't, but I don't necesarily blame the teachers themselves for it. I think I am going to have to talk to my daughters principal real soon to see how many staff members are CPR certified.

    As with some of the others here, the school nurse travels to three different schools with about 5-10 miles between them. If something were to happen at the elementary school while she is out at the high school, she wouldn't even know about it til she got back. She does go to every school every day though.

    Also, for this quote:
    origianally posted by RN2B2005
    extras" like CPR training for teachers (which, by the way, requires time away from the classroom or the teacher's own time)
    I seem to recall that school gets out for the year mid-may and doesn't go back till late-august. Now before you get all irate, I know that many teachers do summer school and other such things during the summer, but it seems to me that there is plenty of time in that 3 month period that they could take a few hours to become CPR certified. So I don't see where doing it on their own time is an issue.

    I dont get why any state says to Licensed day care providers that they have to and then say teachers don't.

  6. by   RN2B2005
    Now before you get all irate
    Great, now I've gone and given myself the reputation of being a porcupine! :chuckle

    Two cups of coffee and a shower later, I'm a much happier person...yes, I think that teachers should definitely be encouraged to take CPR classes in the summer, just as they take professional development classes. As I said, in my husband's district, all district employees are required to have current CPR cards, although the district does compensate for the time spent.

    Administrators (principals, superintendents, etc.) and some classified staff (janitors, security guards, etc.) do not have summers off.

    Forgot to add that in our county, the Medic One (911 response) funding has an allotment for community CPR education, which means we have one of the highest community CPR education rates in the nation--one out of every three county residents has a current CPR card.
  7. by   nurseleigh
    If it makes you feel better, I meant that comment for anyone who might think I was trying to imply that teachers do nothing but sit around eating bon-bons during the summer.

  8. by   SingingNurse2
    Wow, this has been an enlightening thread!

    I am the PTA President of my child's school, and after reading this will definitely find out whether our teachers know CPR - and if not then our PTA will pay for it!

    That's what the PTA is for - protection of our children and teachers. Maybe some more of you could go this avenue.
  9. by   ShortFuse_LPN
    Singingnurse, thank you!! I didn't even think of the PTO when I was trying to come up with suggestions on how to pay for it at our school. Thanks again!
  10. by   littlemack
    When looking for assistance in finding funding to pay for CPR, ask the local Red Cross for training. Here in Missouri, our Red Cross does a "blitz" about every 6 months and it is free of charge. Or contact hospitals in the area and they may be willing to do it for free.
    Good luck!
  11. by   Sourdough
    the teachers here have been certified...they start teaching the kids (around age 12) the basics for the "babysitting course", so the parents can feel better about the person they leave their children with..
  12. by   KC CHICK
    Originally posted by memphispanda
    Teachers already have an awful lot on their plates. If the paperwork nightmare would slow down for them, then maybe it would be reasonable to ask one more thing of them, but would be nice, but not another requirement.
    ......and nurses don't?? There are MANY fields of work that are demanding. I believe that ANYONE responsible for the care of another human it a nurse, police officer, and even teachers should be required to take a basic CPR course.

    They're responsible for the well being of the children in their care during class time, are they not? I'm sure that there would be a minimal charge to the school system to get this accomplished. At the very systems should be looking into this.

    I was always told that children have a better chance of revival from initiation of CPR than adults. Teachers should WANT to know what to do in case of an emergency...not depend on someone else to do it for them. After all, they are the ones that spend most of the time with the children in their class.....not the school nurse and not the gym teacher.

  13. by   Spidey's mom
    hmmm . . . . . all our coaches at our school have to be CPR certified before coaching. I just thought the teachers were too. Seems logical. I'll have to ask.