Out of nursing program cause i am smoker!!! - page 14
Help, I am at risk of being out of the nursing program because I am a smoker. I really could use some advise on how to deal with a very unfair instructor. I am a first year PN student and we... Read More
Jan 15, '07Occupation: Pediatric Staff Nurse, Disease Manager Joined: Dec '04; Posts: 94; Likes: 47Quote from misstaz25I'm sorry, but this is an absolutely terrible attitude to have going in to health care. Your habit, unlike going to the buffet 3 times or eating 4 Big Macs for lunch everyday and just hurts you, can kill someone if they are sensitive enough to the cigarette smoke and you come in smelling of smoke. You seem unable to recognize that. I'm not addressing smoking on your own time, etc. but in the clinical setting, around compromised patients, you could seriously impair someone, whether it's a co-worker or a patient. I used to smoke. I don't now. I actually have issues with smoke. I have a right to clean, healthy air. I'm actually not going to address the instructor's behaviour because I had some stuff like this happen to me in nursing school, at this time. But the other issue is something that gets my goat, sorry. I have very high standards for myself and my co-workers, and stuff that makes the job harder makes me pretty upset, and smoking is one of those.I have already clearly stated this will not be an issue anymore. I will not smoke on the morning before clinicals or during. Please quit be so self-rightous and calling me immature. I have also stated I am writing the papers. Please read all of the post before commenting.
I am not angry because I got caught. I am upset that she made up extra punishment after the incident. I am upset that I paid almost 3,000 for that one semester of school and she could threaten all my hardwork over her principles. Just my books for last semester were $886. I am a dean's list student. I have earned a 96% in her class. I am upset because I am a responsible student and she has taken this one incident and made a huge stink over it. Even mentioning telling on me to my mother should be punishable. I am 30 years old with 3 children of my own. I don't need stupid threats like that.
Yeah, you can throw in my face all the students that didn't get into the program and I did. I also went to school for all prerequisets getting straight A's and making the presidents list. I spent over $8,000 going to school last year and it will be another 20,000 or so before I am done. I earned my spot in the program.
I really dont want to hear anymore stories of how people are allergic to the smell of smoke. I am a respectful smoker and dont do it around nonsmokers. The state I live in resticts all smoking inside public buildings except bars where you have to be over 21 and it is posted on the door that it is a smoking building. Even the hospital here has a back area semi-sheltered for smokers on their breaks. This is not an issue at these places if I was an employee, only an issue with her.
Personally I feel I should be able to smoke in the morning before I am on her time. Don't worry, I won't. What it comes down to is she doesnt want anyone that smokes to be a nurse.
I can understand that many nonsmokers don't like the smell of smoke at all. I don't like the smell of many purfumes. However I am nice enough to keep my mouth shut when I run into someone with strong purfume or body odor. I am also nice enough to not comment on the fatty eating a big mac or going through the buffet for the 3rd time. Why is it society is willing to allow open season on smokers? Everyone has their vice in life. If you say you don't you are either insane or lying. I don't care what people's vices are: smoking, drinking, caffeine, junk food, overeating, not exercising, chewing tobacco, biting fingernails and the tons of other bad habits there are out there. If everyone got bashed like smokers do there would be a riot going on.
Being a smoker is not something that should disqualify you to be in healthcare. I really don't care that there are now laws about not smoking in public places. That is fine and I understand why. What I have a problem with is societies smoker bashing. What I do at my own home, in my car, or on campus in a smoking allowed area should be my own business. In case no one has noticed the anti-smoking laws and high taxes have not got smokers to quit. Smoking is not illegal. When they make smoking illegal then they better shut down McDonalds and all other fast food. Could you non-smokers please lighten up a little?
When you give up even one freedom to better society, you deserve to have none. Ben Franklin
Jan 15, '07Occupation: staff nurse Specialty: Critical Care, Pediatrics, Geriatrics ; Joined: Mar '05; Posts: 1,783; Likes: 108Quote from sister--*That depends. Patient abandonment is a very serious acusation...shouldn't be thrown out there just for an added punch.Maybe I'm way off base here, but I see the bigger issue as being Patient Abandonment.
The instructor assigned a three page paper to be written on this subject.
I'm interested in knowing who the student reported-off to when she left the clinical floor to go out and smoke.
I know in my clinicals that I had to report-off to the licensed primary, another student, and my clinical instructor in order to leave the floor.
The S.N.'s right has been discussed at length. Was her pt.'s right to care addressed? What would a resonable Nurse do?
IF this student reported off to her nurse before leaving the floor (and it doesn't matter if she lied and said she was going to the cafeteria for a coke), THEN it is not patient abandonment. As long as another qualified, licensed staff member knew that they were in charge of the patient while the OP was gone, then calling it patient abandonment is etreme and very unjust.
HOWEVER, if the OP did not tell anyone qualified to watch her patients while she was off the floor (even if she was caught up in her duties), then it can be labeled patient abandonment. AND that would actually be grounds for termination in my program. A paper would have been a slap on the wrist.
Maybe the OP can respond and tell us what happened.
Jan 15, '07Joined: Aug '06; Posts: 233; Likes: 26
she is being an a class bully. she has issues. there are better ways for her to handle this than playing the role of psycho nurse/instructor. her treatment of you is unjust and yes, i have never smoked.
Jan 15, '07Joined: Jan '07; Posts: 1Your choice to smoke is exactly that. How you choose to deal with your instructor is also completely up to you, however, keep in mind that your instructor probably knows many of the staff at surrounding hospitals so while you may win the short term battle, you may also find that you made a bigger mistake in not bending to the rules.
Unfortunatly I have watched many friends try to "buck" the systems at area hospitals only to find themselves on a black list and unable to find jobs at local hospitals.
If I might suggest, do the papers, get through the program and then do as you want. Trust me when I say that there are MANY nurses who smoke (no I'm not one of them).
Good luck in your program!
Jan 15, '07Occupation: Associate Professor Specialty: OB, NP, Nurse Educator ; Joined: Jul '04; Posts: 324; Likes: 61I forgot in my earlier post to note that it is illegal for instructors to talk to your "mommy" (or daddy, or husband, or friend, or sister.....) without WRITTEN permission that details exactly what information is or is not to be shared, length of contract (one time only, all semester, length of course), and if the student is to be present or not.