Nursing Shortage!! It's real and it bites (new grads, can't find a job? Read this post!) - page 9

I had no idea, when I took a job as a nurse manager of an inpatient unit at a rural hospital that's 4 hours away from the nearest large city, that a huge portion of my job stress would come from the... Read More

  1. by   MrNurse(x2)
    When I started in 1989 (real nursing shortage), agency nurses were on our schedule. This was before contracts. The hospital was paying $1.5 million to staff these nurses. They were given a date, told we were going agency free and the hospital gave bonuses and incentives to encourage staff to pick up the shortages. We were assured this would be a temporary condition until the agencies had cleared their exclusionary clauses, about three months. Sure enough, as agency was not used, these nurses came back as staff and flex. The environment and clientele was too nice to leave. We were fully staffed in 6 months. Costs were all short term expenditures, as Baltimore is a "tight" salaried market. Could you approach management and ask to offer $5,000 sign on bonuses? These would probably pay for themselves in the first year.
  2. by   klone
    Quote from MrNurse(x2)
    Could you approach management and ask to offer $5,000 sign on bonuses? These would probably pay for themselves in the first year.
    We already are. As well as loan repayment.
  3. by   NurseBlaq
    Quote from mmc51264
    I work in an area where there are 2 teaching hospitals and they each have satellite hospitals. There are more hospitals (5 or so) within 100 miles. We are desperate for nurses as well. (Raleigh-Durham area as well and Winston-Salem, and Fayetteville area, and some more rural level 1 hospitals).
    There are constant hiring open houses, new grad residency programs, it's wild. I have friends and classmates that are spread out in the area and all love where they are. Some leave due to higher education or going back home, but we need nurses in Eastern NC.
    Eastern NC doesn't want to pay nurses what they should be paid. They also have hateful nurses and people who seem to despise people who aren't from the area as they all know one another. I know this because I've worked in eastern NC and you're underpaid, overworked, and super stressed and it's not because of the job, it's because the staff and patients & their families are all equally hateful. No one wants to work/live in that environment. They're hateful in general. Not everyone of course, before that's the gripe about this post, but enough that no one would willingly put up with that pettiness on a consistent basis.
  4. by   Skippingtowork
    Quote from klone
    No no no!! I feel like nobody's listening to what I'm saying. They're just repeating their own version of what they believe to be true.

    Spanked, I'm not saying what you're describing never happens. But that is simply not the reality in many places.

    You say facilities would rather pay OT to staff than hire more nurses. Hire more nurses from WHERE?? Where are these nurses we're CHOOSING not to hire because we'd rather work our current staff until they're sick, exhausted, or burnt to a crisp?

    This is what I'm trying to tell you - there ARE no nurses applying for these jobs because there are no nurses. Every new grad is snatched up, but there are not enough to take the place of those who are retiring or moving out of the community.
    I wonder how and where they're advertising. Maybe if they go to the city and recruit a bunch of young nurses, assist with securing housing and staff so they could go have fun in the city frequently, they may be more willing to come.
  5. by   shinyhappy1
    I would absolutely be willing to go. Unfortunately, the relocation and hiring bonuses are only offered for nurses with experience (I think the website said 2 years, but don't quote me on that) and I am a new BSN grad.

    If those bonuses, combined with decent pay, were offered to new grads, I can guarantee they'd have at least one applicant.
  6. by   fwidjaja
    And yet for some other RN like me, job is nowhere to be found. I have a BSN and I have 5 yrs total experience with last 3 yrs in Med/Surg ICU. I have been actively looking for a job in Sacramento area for about 1 month now. No luck so far. The posted the position and i applied but never even get a call for interview.
  7. by   medicinewoman33
    Quote from klone
    They (we) can't find staff because we live in an isolated community that nobody has heard of, and we have one small community college that graduates 30 new nurses each year, which isn't enough to take the place of the nurses who are retiring, or moving to other communities.

    We're not unique. This is the plight of rural communities all over the US.

    I would love to find something like that! Especially since I am trying to get into L&D and no one wants to hire w/o experience, at least I've heard, I'm still in school. Think you'll be hiring in 3 years? Jk I'm looking in rural places but not finding much demand there either, I'm in SC which is pretty over saturated but looking to move to North Carolina. Anyone know rural hospitals there?
  8. by   yli08
    New grads, are you having anymore luck?
  9. by   vsheehan
    Quote from klone
    When someone submits an application, it goes directly to my in-box as well as HR's. I am first contact with the applicant, not HR.

    And I can only speak to my facility of course, but what Rocknurse is describing is very much NOT the case. Oregon has strict staffing laws. We cannot compel people to work OT. And travelers are VERY expensive. There is no incentive to the department or the facility to NOT hire permanent nurses to fill open positions.

    If it's on the HR website as an open position, then it's already gone through the approval process. HR does not post it until it's approved.

    And no, it's not part of a larger hospital network. It's just an independent community hospital.
    Oregon, I would move there if not for my kids.
  10. by   vsheehan
    No, only job openings is in SNFs
  11. by   klone
    Still in the same boat as we were when I first posted this. Still have several open positions, and 10% of my nursing staff going out on FMLA leave over then next six months. Still unable to sleep at night.