Nursing Diagnosis: Disorganized Thought Processes

[PennyWise]

I think I'm just grumpy or something, or maybe I have a point. You be the judge.

I was in class today, a "Nursing Trends and Issues" class. Kant's philosophy that lying is always wrong was being discussed. The issue of answering a difficult patient question was proposed to the class.

Somehow, the discussion swayed to how some married people lie and say they still love their spouse when they don't, just for the sake of keeping the peace or protecting the children. On and on these people droned about bad marriages and how too many people stay married "for all the wrong reasons." It got to the point where it was hard to listen too. I finally chimed in about how "The grass isn't always greener on the other side" and the discussion ended there (thankfully).

The very next class (same students, same instructor) was our Family Nursing course. The same people who had just spent 15 minutes advocating and promoting divorce were now on cloud nine describing perfect families. Love, support, unconditional love, acceptance, caring, compassion...........oh, all the lovey dovy adjectives were being thrown around like candy. What happened to being true to yourself and moving on despite the consequences?

Only in a nursing class could there be such a shift in emotions and rational without anyone blinking an eye. Talk about disturbed people. This is what I go to school to learn and absorb? No thanks. Beginning to see why a lot of folks outside of nursing think our "theory" is a bunch of pillow stuffing.

[TopazLover, BSN, RN]

I would buy dissociation.

[SHGR, MSN, RN, CNS]

Too bad the instructor of the first class didn't rein in the discussion more. Sounds like it was similar to many AN threads!!

That said, Kant's categorical imperative is a very useful framework for decision-making.

[nursel56]

Your experience is simply painful even to read about, let alone have to sit through. Those discussions can be very interesting with the right mix of students. A mix that can keep the discussion within the parameters of the proposed issue "a patient asks a difficult question". Given enough time, people will drone on and on about themselves and their lives and their thought process until you simply want to end it all.

Teachers who don't redirect the discussion actually rob the people who do want to learn instead of listening to two hours of meaningless jabber.

[itsmejuli]

Have you sat through an entire semester of healthcare ethics?

[Susie2310]

Ouch, yuck. I think when I was in my early twenties I would have found these kinds of discussions interesting.

By the time I finished my RN and bridged to a BSN program I couldn't bear to hear anything about "nursing theory." The absurd vocabulary is coming back to me now.

Is it possible for you to take some of these classes online so you avoid these discussions?

[workingharder]

I've often thought that many Nursing Diagnosis were "disorganized thought processes".

[PennyWise]

Have you sat through an entire semester of healthcare ethics?

Nope, this was only the second class so far. Im done with all this in December thankfully.

I think I am going to be getting up and taking a lot of long bathroom breaks during this class.

[PennyWise]

Too bad the instructor of the first class didn't rein in the discussion more. Sounds like it was similar to many AN threads!!

That said, Kant's categorical imperative is a very useful framework for decision-making.

Couldn't tell you if I like Kant or not. Only thing I learned is that there are a lot of "statistics" in my classroom. By that I mean people who are counted in the statistics numbers...........for divorce.

[PennyWise]

Ouch, yuck. I think when I was in my early twenties I would have found these kinds of discussions interesting.

By the time I finished my RN and bridged to a BSN program I couldn't bear to hear anything about "nursing theory." The absurd vocabulary is coming back to me now.

Is it possible for you to take some of these classes online so you avoid these discussions?

No online options. That's the biggest thing about my specific program. Its not as expensive as other universities, but they don't believe in online courses for nursing.

[Nurse SMS, MSN, RN]

I guess I am confused. One cannot be in favor of divorce for an unhappy situation yet still believe in happy families?

[SHGR, MSN, RN, CNS]

I guess I am confused. One cannot be in favor of divorce for an unhappy situation yet still believe in happy families?

Sounds like the "discussion" really didn't get to that higher order of thinking, where connections are made and that little light bulb goes on. You know-- "Oh, wow, you're right! I contradicted myself and need to reconcile what seem like two opposing beliefs! Let's dialog about this and really listen to each other!"

Instead, people were just reactionary and talking at each other.