I think I'm just grumpy or something, or maybe I have a point. You be the judge.
I was in class today, a "Nursing Trends and Issues" class. Kant's philosophy that lying is always wrong was being discussed. The issue of answering a difficult patient question was proposed to the class.
Somehow, the discussion swayed to how some married people lie and say they still love their spouse when they don't, just for the sake of keeping the peace or protecting the children. On and on these people droned about bad marriages and how too many people stay married "for all the wrong reasons." It got to the point where it was hard to listen too. I finally chimed in about how "The grass isn't always greener on the other side" and the discussion ended there (thankfully).
The very next class (same students, same instructor) was our Family Nursing course. The same people who had just spent 15 minutes advocating and promoting divorce were now on cloud nine describing perfect families. Love, support, unconditional love, acceptance, caring, compassion...........oh, all the lovey dovy adjectives were being thrown around like candy. What happened to being true to yourself and moving on despite the consequences?
Only in a nursing class could there be such a shift in emotions and rational without anyone blinking an eye. Talk about disturbed people. This is what I go to school to learn and absorb? No thanks. Beginning to see why a lot of folks outside of nursing think our "theory" is a bunch of pillow stuffing.
The sad part is, most of these "discussions" in nursing school have the potential to be insightful and trenchant. Instead they almost invariably end up being tedious and banal. And in the long run they end up being utterly pointless. Just more padding to streeeeetch out that nursing "theory" component.
I guess I am confused. One cannot be in favor of divorce for an unhappy situation yet still believe in happy families?
Well, my personal beliefs about divorce aside...............yes, its possible. But that wasn't where the conversation was going. It was a promotion of divorce. A complete..........."Use your spouse until they no longer can do whatever it is you need from them, then move on" tone. Trust me, they were not talking about an abused wife getting away and being safe or the husband of a hopeless alcoholic moving on. They were talking about..............."If your husband can't remember to leave the toilet seat down, then its not true love and its time to move on" types of divorces.
The sad part is, most of these "discussions" in nursing school have the potential to be insightful and trenchant. Instead they almost invariably end up being tedious and banal. And in the long run they end up being utterly pointless. Just more padding to streeeeetch out that nursing "theory" component.
Actually, I know this teacher from before. I started my BSN classes years ago (finished first semester only) and quit to go into travel nursing. When I did return home during the recession, it took me awhile to restart the program. So, I had a long layoff between semesters. This teacher is in a different position now, but for some reason needed to teach this class.
I remember from years ago, she was fresh out of a divorce and was a HUGE proponent of it. If I remember correctly, even back then when she talked about the separation..............it sounded like a bunch of teenie bopper love spat stuff.
I love Kant's categorical imperative, & I think it provides a framework for making the right choices when we are presented with ethical dilemmas as nurses. As for the contradictory conversations in class, it kinda makes me think of cognitive dissonance - like their statements may not have been true to their own beliefs b/c they didn't want to publicly voice their opposing viewpoints. My nursing diagnoses for the class: Decisional conflict, Acute confusion, & Deficient knowledge!
I'm just curious how old are the people in this group? How many of them were or are married, not sure If you know that answer? What opinion if any did the professor have? I actually love discussions like these, if they are intelligent and have varying points of view, just curious what the age mix is. I personally minored in philosophy and I love a good argument.
I think I would have thrown in "why marry when you can live together"....
In all seriousness, marriage is a personal thing, divorce is a personal thing, both equally complex.
I really like the idea that the discussion turned to hearts and roses, as it is enlightening as to how many of the students' parents are still together, who modeled that behavior for them, that type of thing. Like the above poster, I too love a lively debate and a good argument, especially when it could be argued that everything has a side....and somewhere in the middle is one's own truth.
"Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law." It's a lot broader than the Golden Rule.
I'm just curious how old are the people in this group? How many of them were or are married, not sure If you know that answer? What opinion if any did the professor have? I actually love discussions like these, if they are intelligent and have varying points of view, just curious what the age mix is. I personally minored in philosophy and I love a good argument.
Its a good mix, age wise. Most are 25 to 35yrs. I'd say.........eh, 50% of the class falls in there. The other half is a completely even mix of older and younger.
I know of a few who are divorced, and all but one of them is still single. For the most part though, I don't know their history/story.
"Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law." It's a lot broader than the Golden Rule.
If you feel the need to make it harder than it has to be, go ahead.
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BrandonLPN, LPN
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The sad part is, most of these "discussions" in nursing school have the potential to be insightful and trenchant. Instead they almost invariably end up being tedious and banal. And in the long run they end up being utterly pointless. Just more padding to streeeeetch out that nursing "theory" component.