Nurses children and vaccinations, how do you feel? - page 7
I am on another forum that is very anti-vaccinations for children (or anyone for that matter), and it got me thinking how do nurses and other healthcare workers feel about vaccinations and... Read More
Feb 22, '07Occupation: LDRP Joined: May '05; Posts: 239; Likes: 58I, in general am in agreement with vaccinations. I think it depends on the vaccine. The autism factor has me considering delaying vaccinations but I certainly would do most of the mainstream ones.
A few I have issues with
Chicken pox - natural immunity is superior so I think I would rather my child have chicken pox rather then the vaccine. I know there can be complications from chicken pox but it is rare to have severe complications from them. That being said if my child had not had chicken pox by 12 then I would vaccinate beccause some protection from shingles is better then none.
HPV- there just hasn't been enough study for me to feel comfortable with this.
Hep B- unless you are in a high risk population I don't think this needs to be a routine vaccination.
As far as the flu shot, get one almost every year for 2 reasons. 10 I work in maternity and we really can't have the flu spread around and b) I have asthma and when I do get the flu it makes it so much worse. I realize they don't protect against all strains but I'd rather have it and not need it then not have it and end up in the ER.
I was required to give proof of immunization before getting into nursing school and was required to get the Hep B vaccine before my secod year.Last edit by eden on Feb 22, '07
Feb 22, '07Specialty: Med-Surg, Wound Care ; Joined: Apr '03; Posts: 740; Likes: 296Quote from andrea05I'm sorry you had to go through what you did. This is a vaccine against HPV..not cancer. The amount of protection against HPV is unknown at this time and the study did not go on long enough to determine if even with boosters this vaccine will maintain it's effectivness. Still way to many unknowns on a vaccine.you are vaccinating against cancer
Feb 22, '07Occupation: RN Specialty: 10 year(s) of experience in NICU ; Joined: Apr '06; Posts: 226; Likes: 92Chicken pox - natural immunity is superior so I think I would rather my child have chicken pox rather then the vaccine. I know there can be complications from chicken pox but it is rare to have severe complications from them. That being said if my child had not had chicken pox by 12 then I would vaccinate beccause some protection from shingles is better then none.
I had really bad chicken pox as a child. It is, very literally, the sickest I have EVER been. I missed a month of school. I have tons of scars, many on my face. Seriously, if I can spare my kids from what I had with CP, you bet your pants I will!!!
About the distrust of the medical profession, whatever. I truly feel like I'm working my bum off to help others and find out that some people hate "me" and what I represent. I guess everyone's entitled to their opinions
Feb 22, '07Occupation: LDRP Joined: May '05; Posts: 239; Likes: 58I'm sorry you had such a rough time of it. Like I said, I'm pro vax but studies have shown that the natural immunity (to chicken pox anyway) IS better. I have had chicken pox and so did most people I know and while it was unpleasant, the risk of severe complications in pretty low. I don't want to subect them to it but if they get it, I think it would be better in the long run.
I also said that if by a certain age I would get the vaccine so it's not like I wouldn't do it all, it just wouldn't be automatic.
Feb 22, '07Occupation: staff nurse/midwife Specialty: perioperative,IVF,reproductive health/fp ; Joined: Feb '07; Posts: 15mostly they are ill informed and some think vaccinations are not properly preserved especially in africa. whats more important is that vaccinations are immunity boosters and should be given it goes a long way to protect especially children,and some are life long protective.
Feb 22, '07Occupation: RN Specialty: High Risk In Patient OB/GYN ; Joined: Apr '06; Posts: 738; Likes: 160Quote from Omomo-DonWhat??mostly they are ill informed and some think vaccinations are not properly preserved especially in africa.
Feb 23, '07Occupation: RN Joined: Jan '07; Posts: 148; Likes: 48As a newbie I hope I am not out of order here - For school I was required to get proof of vac's well since I was a thrirty-somthing and my pediatrician has long since folded his tent I was required to have titters drawn, well I was less than norm ok whole new round of vaccinations for me, well then they wanted titters again and guess what sill less than that magic number - lets go again I have had 8 hep b shots and guess what still less than the magic number - the whole debacle ended when I got employed and was told gee that is probably where you live (had two kids with the chickenpox and didn't get it again despite the low titter) I have to wonder about schools dictating treatment, whether they are public or private should medical decisions normally between patient and doctor be in the hands of an institution? It just bugs me; I was forced to get 6ppd's in two years for nursing school now I get a red itchy spot (no indurations) at my annual for work. I guess what ticked me off is that many are not even evidence based practice. Requiring girls to get an brand new vaccine, TX have ya lost your minds. People need the right to choose if Vac's are right for them, just like anything else. Well its my lil two cents for what its worth
Feb 23, '07Joined: Feb '06; Posts: 229; Likes: 55Quote from GardenDoveI agree with GardenDove. I also feel that autoimmune diseases are on the rise and I wonder about the autism controversy. I don't think taking an infant to a doctors office to receive 7 or 8 immunizations at one time is normal...or healthy. Parents are listening to their doctors who stand to make a lot of money on those immunizations and not to their own common sense. If you love your children, read and investigate eveything that you allow into their bodies. That is my humble opinion.I opted out of most vaccines. I feel the number of vaccines given to children today is harmful to their immune systems and contributes to immune disorders, which are on the rise. I've read more honest research on pet vaccinations which have been implicated in the rise of rheumatoid arthritis in dogs.
I also have a holistic approach in other ways. I gave birth to my 6 children at home, breastfed for at least one year, and did not run to the doctor for illnesses. I can count on one hand the times my children were on antibiotics, and only once was for an actual illness. My children have totally above average health which I don't think is coincidental. My oldest child will be 30 years old this year.
I don't share this information with my co-workers as it is considered heresy.
Feb 25, '07Joined: May '06; Posts: 39; Likes: 11Quote from nptobeeI have an 11 y/o daughter. I am against this new vaccine for some strains of Human Papilloma Virus. I think I heard that Texas is requiring it now for girls aged 9-13(?). That's makes me angry. My daughter will not be getting that vaccine.
If cervical cancer comes from HPV, then it is quite preventable. I don't like the idea of assuming that everyone will be having unprotected, early sex.
My daughters will be. Even if she doesn't have sex until she is married, her husband may have and he can infect her. You can get the strains of HPV that cause cancer at any time and I want her to be safe.
Feb 25, '07Occupation: Registered Psychiatric Nurse Joined: Sep '99; Posts: 8Many people who consider not having vaccinations as an appropriate behaviour have little or no appreciation of the risks from communicable diseases. As was observed, they lack basic information about public health issues.
The presence of an unprotected pool of individuals puts everyone at risk.
The efforts to erradicate polio are an example. The pool of "wild" polio virus maintains the risk.
Feb 25, '07Specialty: LTC ; From: US ; Joined: May '06; Posts: 412; Likes: 108The hostility between vaxers and nonvaxers is incredible. Be nice to each other. Stop generalizing.
It's great that you have an opinion but just because you think you are more informed doesn't make your opinion the only right opinion.
Will you get the AIDS vaccine when it becomes available? It will most likely...but it could cause...
You get the idea.
Feb 25, '07Occupation: Obstetrics Specialty: med-surg, ER, rehab, neuro, OB ; Joined: Feb '07; Posts: 20; Likes: 3I do vaccinate my children, but I don't give every one that is available. We also didn't start them until the children were 2, and didn't give an MMR until they started kindergarten.
My kids have never been to day care or any kind of group child care until starting school, so much of their risk was limited. I did extensive research and decided that the benefits of most of the vaccines outweigh the risks, but that the risk of giving a vaccine to a tiny newborn baby was too high.
To be honest, I don't really worry about the opinions of anyone else. People will always have opinions, but I am their mother and it is my job to research and decide individually.
Feb 25, '07Specialty: Med-Surg, Wound Care ; Joined: Apr '03; Posts: 740; Likes: 296Quote from sdreWow, there's a HUGE overgeneralization! Because someone chooses to investigate the risk benefit of a vaccine and opts to not participate in taking that vaccine does not mean they "lack basic knowledge". In most cases they have more knowledge than those who blindly take a vaccine without looking at the risks.As was observed, they lack basic information about public health issues.