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I collect antique medical items such as old metal syringes, books, diagnostic equipment, etc. I also collect very old medical journals.

I just won this auction on ebay. It's a medical journal from the late 1800's where a doc is apparently complaining that nurses made too much money.

Question for staff... since this medical journal is well over 100 years old can I post the contents when I receive it?

I just had to laugh, they've been complaining about this for over 100 years. You'd think they'd have a clue by now.

Assuming staff are okay with my posting the article (can't be copyright issues now, can there??) is anyone interested? If folks aren't interested I don't want to take the time to copy/type.

I also won another auction for a medical journal where it said that OB nurses were "stupid" and needed more training. Well, perhaps if they would have taught them more than how to make "oatmeal" while in school, they would have been better prepared to deliver babies!

Some docs just don't get a lot smarter with time.

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I have a book that tells if your son is doing the dirty deed... masturbation. There are something like 19 signs to tell if he's "doing" it. :chuckle Some of the signs are, acne, a barrel chest, wants to keep to himself for long periods of time and not spend time with family, sweaty palms, an intense desire to spend time with female girls his own age, ... the list goes on. It is very funny. The reason they believed masturbation was bad for boys was because they only have so much sperm. If they use it all up before they are married it is cruel to his wife because he won't be able to have children.

So what happens if a GIRL does it? Oh gosh, maybe their minds were so small back then that they couldn't wrap their little brains around the possibility. (But at least girls don't lose eggs that way.)

P.S.,

On Oprah's show I heard that masturbation is a great way to deal with cramps during your period. Hmm...I guess the uterus cramps more, causing the yucky stuff to come out faster, which makes your period go away faster. :doh: :eek:

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I love that old medical stuff! I would love to see pics of it...I find it so interesting!

So what happens if a GIRL does it? Oh gosh, maybe their minds were so small back then that they couldn't wrap their little brains around the possibility. (But at least girls don't lose eggs that way.)

P.S.,

On Oprah's show I heard that masturbation is a great way to deal with cramps during your period. Hmm...I guess the uterus cramps more, causing the yucky stuff to come out faster, which makes your period go away faster. :doh: :eek:

Actually it was something that was treated as though it was a medical condition. Sometimes they would clip a small piece of the clitoral hood, circs were often times done on boys to make them think about pain when they thought of their member. How emotionally healthy is THAT?

It was equally as bad in males and females and they TREATED it. Yikes!

I love that old medical stuff! I would love to see pics of it...I find it so interesting!

I'll have to dig out my camera and take some photos.

My books are my favorite though. Love 'em!

Go for it I bet theres more out here that would love to read that than you think I know I do. Now i am going tohave to go on ebay and start looking. But for anyone that has any and would like to donate remember the hospitals around your area love that stuff also or you can show them what you have so they can display it ( in glass cases) we have a hospital here that did that loved walking down that long hall.

I believe that was deaconess hospital. I used to go there when i was little and just loved to see all the old medical stuff.

I have a book that tells if your son is doing the dirty deed... masturbation.

Maturbating is a very good way to find out functions, limitations and strengths. I wonder if in a 100 years will males look back and laugh at vibrating contraptions. And a little alkaline is bound to be good for your prostate after passing acidic urine.

All my books with the exception of two are 1800s or earlier.

I don't know about the Guttenberg project, can you tell me more about it?

I'd love to! (First, my apologies, I misspelled it - it's Gutenberg) It's a totally free source for public domain books. It's a totally volunteer-run organization that makes *no* money at all off the project except what people donate to them out of kindness. It's a *huge* effort by *lots* of volunteers to put old great books in electronic text format so anyone anywhere can get it and read it for free.

There's a similar project to do this with great children's books, and I've volunteered for that project as a typist in the past, but that was back in the days before nursing school. I haven't typed any since then! (Wonder why???) I hope to get back into it when I have more time.

Here's the website: http://www.gutenberg.org/

And here's how to contact them if you would be willing to share your books, or photocopies of them, with the project:

http://www.gutenberg.org/info/volunteer

:) I have enjoyed this thread :)

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Yeah, it's a good thread....but I glanced at the above posts and saw posting pics & masturbation. I had to actually read, not skim them then! :chuckle

I got one of my ebay gems in the mail today!!!! It's not one of the journals I've been writing about but instead it is some nursing notes on a single patient from 6/16/1889. It doesn't give a dx but it does give ALL nursing notes. I have to admit, I purchased so much stuff over the last few weeks I totally forgot about this one! It does not give a patient name or dx.

6/16/1889 11:30AM Pulse: 120 Temp: 104.4 Notes: Bathed patient in alcohol, gave douche (lady partsl) plain boiled water cooled down to the temp 115, gave powdered Quinine.

1:30PM Pulse 120 Temp: 103.8 Notes: Gave milk, pt has had some sleep and has been very quiet.

3:30PM Notes: Gave milk and stimulant

(Pinned with safety pin to nursing notes) MD orders (Dr. JJ Moore): Give teas every three hours in a warm glass of water. Give the capsules at the same time.

4:00PM Casules with meals, passed urine, gave milk.

6:00PM Pulse: 120 Temp: 103.8 Gave milk.

7:00PM Gave milk.

9:00PM Gave capsules

12:00AM Gave capsules and milk, gave douche and enema, good results.

1:30AM Gave milk and stimulant.

3:00AM (can't read, pencil writing is too light)

4:00AM Pulse 130 Temp 104.2 Resp 36 Notes: Gave capsules, alcohol bath, skin feels cooler, moist.

4:30AM Pulse 120

5:00AM Rubbed breasts with liniment, drew off about (???) by breast pump, gave milk, fed baby. (Yikes)

6:30AM Pulse 120 Temp: 104.8 Resp 36 Gave quieting powder and stimulant

9:00AM Pulse 120 Temp 104.6 Notes: Gave 4 capsules and milk. Gave stimulant. Pt slept quietly for 1 1/2 hours after douche. Appears better, pulse not too quick, gave 1 quieting powder.

6/17/1889

Nothing until 12AM Pulse 120 Temp 104.6 Notes: Gave 2 capsules medicine, pt has slept for 2 hours.

3AM Gave milk and stimulant, passed urine dark with strong odor. Gave more milk.

4:30AM Pulse 120 Temp 103.6 Notes: Gave milk and Whiskey

8:30AM Gave milk, bathed and rubbed with alcohol, gave two capsules, patient seems much better, no odor to flow, used douche of hot water.

12:30PM Pulse 114 Temp 103.4 Gave milk and Whiskey

3:15PM Notes: Milk and Whiskey

3:30PM Notes: Patient vomited yellow fluid and curdled milk

4:40PM Notes: Gave capsules and lady partsl douche

5:30PM Patient has vomited 5 times, greenish yellow fluid, gave Whiskey in water. 15 minutes after milk. Vomited after about 20 minutes. (geez, I wonder why?)

Next page is more of the same, each time the patient was given milk and whiskey she would vomit, pulse down to 80, temp 96.

Next day she was given more milk and whiskey, breasts pumped with breast pump, baby fed.

Patient ended up eating milk toast and champagne. She was given champagne instead of Whiskey and didn't vomit anymore.

This patient record is about the size of a check book. One page per day. Nurse had to write quite small to fit it on the page. It doesn't appear that the patient received her "capsules" every three hours as directed unless the nurse just didn't document it.

Once her temp stayed at 98.6 or lower for 24 hours she was permitted to nurse her baby without the breast pump. Food increased to broiled steak and tea for lunch and dinner, poached eggs and tea for breakfast. Daily. Pt was weak but able to sleep, keeping Champagne and milk down, feeding her baby, eating well. She no longer needed 24 hour nursing after 6/25/1889.

Something else interesting, it never says what the capsules are, just that the nurse should give them q3h. Everything by the doc is written out, no abbreviations but the nurse uses measurement abbreviations only.

One other issue, it would appear the same nurse is caring for the patient 24/7, the handwriting is the same person for the full 9 days. Day and night. Wow.

I have a cook book from 1886 and it is quite clear, if you don't have enough money for your food purchases then buy plenty of milk before buying meat. Milk is more important. A quart for each adult and a pint for each child daily. With leftover money buy meat. These nursing notes tend to show that was indeed the thinking.

Amazing.

Specializes in Operating Room.

....and the thought process that "Cleanliness is next to Godliness"....poor girl had enough enemas and douches to last a lifetime. :chuckle

Milk and Whiskey? .... No wonder she vomited curdled milk....OTHER THAN BECAUSE OF THE HIGH FEVER! :uhoh3:

I'm sure years from now, people will look back and laugh at our thinking, but man....this is too funny!

Thanks for sharing!

Specializes in Transplant, homecare, hospice.
I collect antique medical items such as old metal syringes, books, diagnostic equipment, etc. I also collect very old medical journals.

I just won this auction on ebay. It's a medical journal from the late 1800's where a doc is apparently complaining that nurses made too much money.

Question for staff... since this medical journal is well over 100 years old can I post the contents when I receive it?

I just had to laugh, they've been complaining about this for over 100 years. You'd think they'd have a clue by now.

Assuming staff are okay with my posting the article (can't be copyright issues now, can there??) is anyone interested? If folks aren't interested I don't want to take the time to copy/type.

I also won another auction for a medical journal where it said that OB nurses were "stupid" and needed more training. Well, perhaps if they would have taught them more than how to make "oatmeal" while in school, they would have been better prepared to deliver babies!

Some docs just don't get a lot smarter with time.

:chuckle I read this title and thought, 'has this person lost their mind???' Lol....I need to go check out eBay for these items...that sounds so interesting. Thanks.

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