Mad and confused! - page 2
I don't post much..I just read. I'm an LPN, just now a year in... I've been working at a LTC for three months now, got a good report from my DON. She resigned, we got a new one. A week into the new... Read More
Jun 27, '09Joined: Oct '05; Posts: 3,336; Likes: 2,626I live in MASS and it is a employment at will state meaning they can let you for basically for no reason.
http://research.lawyers.com/Missouri...-Missouri.html I think your state is the same.
In SNFs when a new manager comes in they often shake up the staff and bring their friends.
I think you have a good plan, sorry to hear the problems you are having.
Jun 27, '09Joined: Dec '06; Posts: 2,135; Likes: 3,205You''ve gotten great advice from others and I'm glad you will be taking this further on Monday. To be clear you haven't been fired because when you are fired you don't get to finish out the month. She has no grounds and knows it so she is trying to get you to quit.
I don't think this has anything to do with you. She wants to bring in her own staff and will fine a way to do it by lying, etc. if need be. It is prob in your best interest to find another job as you will never be comfortable or happy working for her. I'm sorry this happened to you. Definitely meet with administration and DON'T SIGN ANYTHING. If you have excellent evaluations, recent praise from pateints, etc. bring all of that to the administrator with you.
You can say this is a hostile environment as it's true. It's also a word employers don't like to hear because they know you might take legal action. Keep us posted.
Jun 27, '09Occupation: um..nurse?? Specialty: LTC ; From: US ; Joined: Jun '08; Posts: 713; Likes: 1,163Oh I plan on it. I'm riled up good. I'm not letting this garnish my career when I'm just fresh out of diapers so to speak.
Allbeit in a very sweet, professional manner
Jun 27, '09From: US ; Joined: Feb '03; Posts: 358; Likes: 891Quote from Alexk49Yep, that was my first thought. However, as the company is no longer accepting MD notes for call ins and such, and as you've only been there for just over three months you may be the lowest on the ladder, it sounds like the company is cutting the budget and forcing the change. Sad but true, you're probably just a victim of politics.In SNFs when a new manager comes in they often shake up the staff and bring their friends.
But that doesn't make it right. And just because you might be in an at will state doesn't mean an employer can make up reasons to get rid of you. If you're fired, you're fired, right now, not in a couple of days. Your DON's offer of PRN work is an odd one. Why would an employer that has fired you want you to continue to work there?
There is no reason you can't consult with an attorney AND start looking for a new job. Politely decline your DON's offers of PRN employment. Remind her, nicely, the she has fired you and that it means you no long have the duties of an employee and that the employer no longer has the right to expect anything from you. Get copies of every piece of paper generated concerning your termination, and visit the unemployment office on your way home from your exit interview.
Jun 27, '09Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 38,000; Likes: 37,179Quote from prison_nurseThis is often the reason when there is no good reason. Most DONs bring in one or more of their cronies when they move from facility to facility, and they can't readily do this if their new facility is staffed to capacity.She could have someone else lined up for the job and that's why she's pushing you out....
Jun 27, '09Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 38,000; Likes: 37,179Quote from nurse19702008Good advice here.For your sake, I hope finding another job is a feasible option. That said, I hope you still go ahead with your plan to talk to admin and let them know what is going on and why you are leaving. For my own sake I always ask for copies of my evals and never turn in the original copy of anything...learned that when I had a NM that truly lost everything! You can compare your copies with what ever this or anyone else shows you is in your file. Goodluck!
Jun 28, '09Occupation: um..nurse?? Specialty: LTC ; From: US ; Joined: Jun '08; Posts: 713; Likes: 1,163I am tending to agree. THanks SO much for the advice..I fully intend to talk to the admin tomorrow...If it is budgets, they have no right to trash me and my nursing skills. I think it's time they heard some of my complaints.
Thanks again everyone! I'll let you know what happens.
Jun 28, '09Occupation: L.P.N. in LTC Specialty: med surg,homecare,hospice ; Joined: Aug '00; Posts: 4,682; Likes: 4,823[QUOTE=Sparrowhawk;3710858]several things she's "heard" about me and complaints etc...i.e I'm too harsh with the CNAs (yes, I can be..I knew this already..workin on it) I'm not assertive enough (My confidence is low..also been working on that) She gave me a *week* to improve these things.
That sounds like a bunch of BS-what an incongruent statement..It's difficult to tell the difference between an assertive command and a harsh one unless you witness it.
I would hesitate to ring too many bells there before walking out the door-In my area that type of behavior can get you black balled locally. I would go over her head to corporate.She has not followed her own policies and procedures (I'm betting) and that alone should allow you to strike some kind of deal where you quit but leave with a letter of recommendation in hand. Don't let her do anything that will leave a black mark on your resume.
Jun 28, '09Occupation: um..nurse?? Specialty: LTC ; From: US ; Joined: Jun '08; Posts: 713; Likes: 1,163I'm not ringing bells and causing a scene..I just want to clarify some things..esp since they said that then going and saying you can stay prn.
Jun 29, '09Joined: Oct '05; Posts: 3,336; Likes: 2,626Quote from SparrowhawkHow did you make out today?I'm not ringing bells and causing a scene..I just want to clarify some things..esp since they said that then going and saying you can stay prn.
Jun 29, '09Occupation: Gas Girl Specialty: 20 year(s) of experience in Case mgmt, anesthesia, ICU, ER, dialysis ; From: US ; Joined: Jun '09; Posts: 371; Likes: 412If you get "blackballed", sue the hell out of them. I know I sound litigious, but unfortunately, this is the only language many employers understand.
When I was a manager, all you were allowed to do was confirm dates worked there and whether they were eligible for rehire.
It wouldn't be easy to prove, but it can be done.
Don't take it lying down. They will push you just as far as you let them.
Jun 29, '09Occupation: Nurse Manager/Infection Control Specialty: 16 year(s) of experience in Rehab and LTC ; Joined: Sep '08; Posts: 977; Likes: 1,871i'm curious to know what happend today too.
i got sacked once like this. new DON comes in. im the day shift RN on the SNF unit. she asks me one day "would you like to switch shifts and go to evenings?" i say no and go on about my business. all the while she is buddy buddy, ya know. so she hires this nurse that has worked with her forever. chick was her ADON at another building. we had no openings on day shift so she starts on evenings. she tells anyone that will lissn that she is going to days "soon". me, like an idiot, didnt see it coming. i go to work one day and get fired for not charting in the nursing note that i had given a pt ativan for agitation. i had charted a whole page, signed the narc out on the mar, written the reason AND effect on the back of the mar and she sacks me because i didnt add it to my note too. i was totally blindsided.
lesson i learned is that anytime there is new management come in, your job is NOT safe i dont care how long you've been there or how good a job you do.
run, dont walk. sometimes it's just better to cut your ties. because if they want you gone, they WILL find a reason...even if they have to make one up. ie...these "rumors" she's heard.
but me, being the chit that i am, i would run to the attorneys office and have their butt. cuz im mean and vindictive like that, lol.
Jun 30, '09Occupation: RN LTC From: US ; Joined: Jan '03; Posts: 3,757; Likes: 1,820Quote from caliotter3I'm willing to bet some $$$ this is the case.This is often the reason when there is no good reason. Most DONs bring in one or more of their cronies when they move from facility to facility, and they can't readily do this if their new facility is staffed to capacity.