How are you judgemental? - page 8

I was reporting off this morning on a rule out chest pain pt. He was a 49 yr old guy who had an extensive family cardiac risk hx, he had had a CABG in his 30's, had been an alcoholic until 8 yrs ago,... Read More

  1. by   UM Review RN
    Quote from Tweety
    Thank you! I was noticing the same thing in MSN Dictionary. So there...neener neener neener!
    :Present2: Merry Christmas, Tweets.
  2. by   Tweety
    Quote from Angie O'Plasty, RN
    :Present2: Merry Christmas, Tweets.
    I'm so easy aren't I??
  3. by   morte
    Yes, the English language can be frustrating since it is a conglomeration of so many other languages and rules . . . you can say " I before E except after C" to help remind you of how to spell some words like "receive" but the rule breaks down for other words.

    and I have purposely educated myself on all aspects of addiction so I could at least intellectually understand even if emotionally I want to throttle someone.


    i agree with the english language being a pita......and i think i "gotcha" on the "purposely".....hmm perhaps it should be purposefully?

    and to the poster with a question on learning spelling......some indeed can be memorized.....but apparently there is a small subset of person...i think the study was on men, that CANT learn is a minimal brain disfunction..not affecting the one l or two....lololololol
  4. by   canoehead
    OMG can we get over the spelling thing?
  5. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from canoehead
    OMG can we get over the spelling thing?

    That would be my fault . . . mea culpa . . . :bowingpur

    Yes, Merry Christmas Tweety! :icon_redface:

  6. by   wonderbee
    Judgmental? Oh yeah. The trauma population can really raise some ire. With all the drama in trauma, it's pretty hard not to develop some attitude.
  7. by   Daytonite
    I know from these boards when we talk about obesity it's always "how dare you judge". Sad that we treat the diabetic foot, the COPD, the cocaine snorting mother and the consequences but feel we have to keep our mouths shut lest we be judgmental.
    Teaching patients can be done very objectively without injecting personal criticism and subjectivity into the conversation. All it takes is some exercise of control. If I berate a patient or take some criticizing pot shots at them for their health behaviors and practices, then what have I accomplished other than to make myself feel a little bit more superior over that person for that moment of time. That's a right thing to do? Not to my way of thinking. It's also not humane, compassionate, respectful, or nice. Crazy people will come back with guns and shoot you.
  8. by   ceecel.dee
    I am not one of the saints...I disapprove (sp?) of the unwashed and odorous. It's just so unnecessary (sp?).
    I make a conscious effort to maintain a neutral face and to discretely don the gloves to even touch their skin.:uhoh21:
  9. by   ElvishDNP
    For the record, I did eventually develop a rapport with the cocaine snorting mom and while I continued NOT to agree with what she was doing, I was able to take care of her and her baby competently. I think it is perfectly possible to completely disagree and/or disapprove of what someone does (the action) while being able to have a therapeutic relationship with the person behind the action.
  10. by   angel337
    [QUOTE=agoodusername;1964938]I really don't appreciate this thread. Aren't we perpetuating stereotypes by highlighting them in a discussion? This is exactly how "drug seekers" and "complainers" are created, marked, studied and pegged -- before we ever even experience them!

    please post again once you are actively working as a nurse and are completely responsible for multiple patients and their every little need. i GUARANTEE you will change your mind. i never treat my patients anthing but professional, but it does not stop me from being annoyed by certain things that they do.
  11. by   nurseinlimbo
    One of the things that shocked me the most coming out of nursing school, was HOW judgemental nurses are.
    Maybe because we are burnt out, maybe because we no longer care (or maybe never did), maybe because we've missed Christmas for 10 years in a row and are resentful. Whatever it is, it is definitely a part of the nursing environment.
    I have worked in Psych, and one of my ways of filling in the slow times at work was to read all the patient histories in their charts. It was unbelieveable what some of these people had been through, horrible abuses and life situations that would knock most of us. Yet they received very little understanding from their nurses if their coping skills included drugs or alcohol. That is just one example. I always try to look at the whole person, rather than just what they are doing now.

    But I think that as nurses, we are probably most judgemental of EACHOTHER. How many times have you participated in Gossip? given someone the gears because they didn't pick up the phone for that extra shift? spread rumors about another nurse's competence? eaten your young?

    And by the same token, how many times have you given a helping hand to a nurse who has just worked 14 shifts in a row and has been asked to stay late? or picked up Christmas for a young single mom so that she can be with her kids to open presents? or guided a new nurse and helped them to become better?

    That is what nursing should be, but it isn't. I have worked numerous places, and encountered it everywhere. We have no regard for eachother, and especially those that are new to a group of established nurses, or new to nursing period.

    If I had known that this would be what I would encounter when I got out of school, I would never have gone into nursing. Management allows it to occur and even encourages it. It may be a result of the nursing shortage but we all still have a choice in how we treat others.
  12. by   weirdRN
    I have problems with being judgemental of people who are not willing to help themselves. There are so many people out there willing to help you up when you are down, Why stay in that hole when you can dance in the sunshine? Makes no sense to me.

    I have difficulties understanding and relating to the person who smokes. I thought that the way to understand would be to take up that nasty habit. So, I barrowed a smoke from a friend and she made me swear to smoke it or give it back. I lit it. In the end I just couldn't make my self put my lips around that nasty habit.:P Yeck! I don't believe I have any unbreakable habits beyond breathing. Hopefully someday I will have an inkling of what it is like. I am even more judgemental of people who smoke but are on public assistance and not planning on bettering themselves or don't have the money for milk or medicine but can buy thier next smoke. And I have a way short temper with parents and families who smoke with children of any age around.

    I used to not understand people who are non-functioning alcoholics, the overweight and obese people, and those who are depressed. Then I had an event and became depressed myself. From that depression I began to drink and then I gained weight. Eventually, I got over my event and through a lot of work, I am better. I relate and have a great deal more compassion today that I did before my event.

    I used to pray for patience with small children and the grace to understand people who bring small kids to resturants and expect them to behave perfectly. I understand them and relate to them better now that I have a child of my own.
  13. by   muffie
    you must walk a mile in the shoes of another to understand