Heinous or Forgivable??? - page 6
I was doing a 1:1 observation with an elderly confused woman who tends to wander. So I was in the room with her and the 19 year old unit clerk came in with a piece of paper that said " My name is... Read More
Sep 15, '02Occupation: CNA Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 485; Likes: 15I stated her age because she acts as though she knows everything there is to know about being a nurse, even though she just started nursing school 2 weeks ago.
Sep 16, '02Occupation: CNA Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 485; Likes: 15Corrin...I would LOVE that. PLEASE address this. Please tell your students that while it can be a good experience working in a hospital while in nursing school, it is important not to pick up bad habits or follow bad examples.Just because it is done, doesn't make it right. It takes more than a license to make a good nurse.
Sep 16, '02Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 1,614; Likes: 2Many people talk about how they would lash out at this person who commits a haneous act as to make fun of a sick person. Remember: this is America nad our citizens are FREE to commit such acts w/o having to fear violence from others. Maybe in Singapore this person would be canned publically, but in America, you need to leave this kind of thing alone and just ignore it. I could say many things, but I choose to say this. I'm sorry :-(
Sep 17, '02Occupation: registered nurse Joined: Nov '01; Posts: 1,083; Likes: 14not so MARIO, this may be America but everone here has rights and she had no right to treat an ill person with such disrespect. it is reportable,disgusting heinious and any other term you could think off. May be the clerk needs a little sign put on her back. such as I am an idiot, or Jackass. which ever fits best and see how she likes it.
i hope she never makes it out of nursing school the sad fact is she has a good chance of making it and then many people can learn her bad habits.JMO
Sep 17, '02Occupation: Director of nursing in an assisted living facility Joined: Jul '01; Posts: 708; Likes: 3Heinous!!!!
No Excuse! (whether or not she 'saw' someone else do it!) Scary thought there are more than one out there,,, I know it and it does scare me!!!!!
Loss of Dignity!!!! (no matter if confused or not!)
Violations of her rights!
Age is not issue!
Pray she gets very seasoned smart intrusrutors,,, & makes it no further than two months in school! Believe me if she had my instructors,,, she would not!!!!
Wheter or not geratrics was first choice in nursing,,, it is my forte now,,, If someone atttempted to do anything like that to one of them,,,, She would be told by me!,,,, Reported to who ever I could & I assure you she wouldn't be working with us again,,,!!!
(Wow,,,, only was going to say ditto to everyones comments,,,!)
Sep 17, '02Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 38,000; Likes: 37,179At one of the LTC facilities I used to work at I asked about a resident's clothing... he had his name written in very large lettering all over everything he owned. I was told that the state said this is improper when they did their surveys, the facility got dinged every time the surveyors saw this. The staff would remove the clothing and spoke to this man's family. But they always replaced everything and continued to do this. They insisted that by ruining his clothing, nobody else would steal it and they didn't care what anybody else thought about this practice. We all thought it was awful.
Sep 17, '02Occupation: CNA Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 485; Likes: 15mario....we should just "leave it alone" ? How would you feel if someone did that to YOUR mother? Or to you for that matter if you ever became mentally compromised? A hospital employee does NOT have the right to take away a pt's dignity. Remember PATIENTS have rights, too. Perhaps you and this unit clerk should get together and have lunch. The reason why people continue to get away with things such as this is because people like you think we should " leave it alone".
Sep 17, '02Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 1,614; Likes: 2No Flo, see, I am just showing my frustrations because there really is nothing you can do about this behavior, except terminate the employee, which I by the way am for. Honestly, I would favor the charge nurse to give a butt stroke with an IV pole, or at least a tackling hip-check. But in America, you can't do that. Right? So all you can do is report it (moan), and ignore it until someone does something. I'm not speaking in favor of the unit clerk, and i don't know what i said that could have made you think that :-(
Sep 17, '02Occupation: CNA Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 9; Likes: 1Unprofessional behavior, definately not to be tolerated. Definately needs to be written warning, and additional education on emotional abuse. I'd write/email appropriate supervisor documenting actions along with the 'sign'. Also, I'd keep a copy of sign and documentation to CYA.
Sep 17, '02Occupation: Retired Specialty: 15 year(s) of experience in Corrections, Psych, Med-Surg ; From: US ; Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 2,246; Likes: 48caliotter3--well, the family has an excellent point. Personal clothing DOES tend to disappear in many LTC facilities, along with many other personal items.
And if that LTC facility doesn't want to get "dinged," all it has to do is type up a form for the family to sign, saying they advised the family of this "rule" and that the family chooses to disregard it. Then show the signed form at the next survey.
Sep 20, '02Joined: Jul '02; Posts: 3,872; Likes: 18Completely unforgivable...although they do have a point about her immaturity and learning from others.
However, with the nursing shortage as such, we need to be prepared for those who are not as caring and are nurses for the "big bucks". (what big bucks?)
I would definitely have a talk with her and if it happens again, report her. My grandma has Alzheimer's and if someone did that to her, I would definitely have to kick her butt....
Sep 20, '02Occupation: CNA Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 485; Likes: 15Molly J...my interaction with her caused her to throw a temper tantrum. Like I said she actually stomped her feet. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry at that point. When she said "everyone else is doing it" ...she meant the nurses, which is pathetic. For all I know the sign was back on her after I left. The woman had no family so I guess they thought it was OK to treat her like dirt since no one complained about it. That is...till Flo came along and ruined their fun.
Sep 20, '02Occupation: CNA Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 485; Likes: 15I am just hoping that now that this chick has started school. she will grow up a little and develop a mind of her own. Since she has started she only works weekends and they make her float so she can't get away with that crap on other floors. She is not happy about changing floors, either. Probably because she can't go and put signs on people anymore. She previously worked on the oncology floor where the charge nurse let her do whatever she wanted. I remember one time, a young man lost his battle with cancer and this twit said to every single employee who walked in that morning, " 3$@%7 is dead. She used his first name, as though she knew him. I don't know.