Got fired today - page 3
Well, tomorrow will be the first day in almost a decade that I will wake up and have nowhere that I need to be. I got kicked out to the curb today. Fired. Canned. Terminated. I've been busting my... Read More
Dec 10, '02Occupation: LPN Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 8I was a LTC nurse for 3 years and I know what burn out is. I recently decided to go back to school for my RN, I found out that they were not as flexible as i needed them to be. Even though I made time to work 16hr weekends and three days a week, they felt that they could not bend a little. So I make my decision to move on, even though I hated to leave my residents and co-workers, I hgad to do what i had to do. Now , I am much happier with my current job due to the flexiblity that i needed. So u will find something better, for u.!!!!
Dec 10, '02Occupation: SRNA Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 1,191; Likes: 28I think one of the earlier suggestions was great. Call your local newspaper and see if they're interested in your story. This LTC facility is just contributing to the nursing shortage by overworking their nurses and then firing them??!! You were treated wrongly! Let us know an update on how you are doing...
Dec 10, '02Occupation: RN Specialty: med/surg & geriatrics ; Joined: Sep '02; Posts: 208((HUGS))) I got laid off this summer- for the first time in my life. I had been there for three years. I worked in a machine shop. Trained this young kid to take my job. When they canned me I decided to follow my dreams and go back to school to be a nurse. Had to make a lot of changes and do without a lot, but hopefully it will be worth it. Just remember that everything happens for a reason. :kiss
Dec 10, '02Occupation: Nursing Student Joined: Nov '02; Posts: 427This may sound strange, but maybe they were doing you a favor. Someone 'fired' you so you could collect unemployment rather than forcing you into quitting, where you couldn't.
Not that it helps your self-esteem, but you have to know deep down that they weren't firing your nursing skills. They were giving a tired burned out hard working nurse a rest. And by doing it that way, still letting you bring home some money.
It's a thought. But I was forced and pushed into quitting a Medical Assistant job earlier this year. I quit partly because I was afraid I was going to be fired for the first time in my life. I did everything right above and beyond the call of duty. I worked incredible hours and did everything they asked of me and more. Yet they kept hounding me so I quit. Turned out it was all a political thing (very long story), nothing to do with my skills. Now I wish I would have waited and let them fire me so I could have collected unemployment.
Hang in there, and know that you have lots of support with us here.:kissLast edit by kavi on Dec 10, '02
Dec 10, '02Joined: Dec '02; Posts: 145; Likes: 12My thoughts are with you, just like those many nurses who understand and who have sent you their warm and hopeful thoughts. I think that as you were smart enough to share your experience, you are smart enought to get beyond this, perhaps not on your own, but with appropriate help. Good Luck.
Dec 10, '02Occupation: Staff Development Coordinator - OR Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 577; Likes: 11My thoughts are with you. I know that you are in pain now, but this situation may turn out to be a blessing in disguise. SOunds like you were in an impossible situation, and it was easier for you former employer to blame ypu rather than look at themselves and maybe do something constructive.
Yes, a great deal of your depression is due to your work situation, but perhaps not all. The above suggestions to talk to you doctor about giving you something at least temporarily, or perhaps talk to a counselor are good ones.
It seems your former employers implied that you were dealing with a mental health problem (depression)-- perhaps they might be in violation of the Americans With Disabilities Act, which covers mental illnesses such as depression.
Please take care of yourself. Best wishes with your job search.
Dec 10, '02Occupation: L.P.N. in LTC Specialty: med surg,homecare,hospice ; Joined: Aug '00; Posts: 4,682; Likes: 4,824They probably did you a favor-accept it gatefully and look at it ad an opportunity.....Sounds like the float pool in LTC would be nice for you...also-I agree that you should get some legal advice-and in what states can one collect un-employment upon being "fired"?Good Luck-if you can collect-enjoy the time off...
Dec 10, '02Joined: Sep '02; Posts: 74I just stumbled across this book yesterday..and spend yesterday and TODAY reading it. OH MY! What a wealth of information..that most of us already know...or were had an idea about..but nice to see it ALL in print.
I'm going to look on ..to see if they have it there. Its written by two nurses..and soooooooooooo explains everything!
Dec 10, '02Occupation: Retired Specialty: 15 year(s) of experience in Corrections, Psych, Med-Surg ; From: US ; Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 2,246; Likes: 48FTell001--If you mean the book by Joan Swirsky, it's out of print and unfortunately not in our library system here. If you mean a different book, what are the authors' names, and I'll see about an interlibrary loan.
(added later after a msg from FT) that is the book she meant. The second author is Laura Gasparis.
There could probably be an entire collection of books by that name, just based on the posts here on this BB!Last edit by sjoe on Dec 11, '02
Dec 10, '02Occupation: RN-i (RETIRED) Specialty: ORTHOPAEDICS-CERTIFIED SINCE 89 ; From: US ; Joined: May '00; Posts: 14,479; Likes: 2,298This is such great advice. True Support for a fellow Nurse. I add mine to the encouragement.
I agree with the "me time" and unemployment compensation, in addition federal law covers employees for up to 12 weeks medical leave(FMLA). There are contingencies to that eg: employer must have 50 or more employees and you must have worked there 1 year.
Most attorneys will see you for an initial consult for free or for a low amount. Consider this.
Dec 10, '02Occupation: LPN Joined: Jan '00; Posts: 11sorry about you losing your job...being a nurse manager in LTC is an extremely difficult job..at times the work that they expect is unrealistic....dont feel like a failure...consider this a blessing and move on....Hopefully not working in that particular position will reduce your stress and help you with your depression..there are so many jobs out there...I hope that you find one that makes you happy... Good Luck
Dec 10, '02Joined: Dec '01; Posts: 2,865; Likes: 15I wish you all the best, I'm sorry you got fired and agree with what so many of our wise allnurses friends have said already....
take this time for yourself, depression is a serious thing, do what you need to do , get help and realize that although it certainly may not feel like it right now -this could have been a very good thing.
I wish you on to greener pastures, better times and happier days!!!
just think , when youre at a job you really love you can look back and realize that you were not happy at the time or at that place.
right now take time for YOU!!!
we support you regardless of circumstance or distance so please keep us posted.....
and off topic - ftell001 what is your avatar?? I've seen it before and meant to ask you , but it scares the beejebus outta me for some reason I think of freddy kruegers eye when I see it
!!!!!!!!!!! someone hold me...
Dec 11, '02Occupation: RN and blogger extraordinaire Specialty: 20 year(s) of experience in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych ; From: OR, US ; Joined: Sep '02; Posts: 26,952; Likes: 44,653YOU GUYS ROCK!!!!!
Thanks so much to all of you who've posted replies to this thread........I appreciate your caring, your advice, and your unconditional support. My family is sympathetic to a point, but they can't understand like you all do, and of course they're worried about how we're going to manage financially without my income.
I did go and file for unemployment benefits today, even though I felt like a nobody. I doubt the facility will fight it very hard, since, as one person suggested, they fired me in such a way that I should be able to collect. And yes, I've thought about fighting my dismissal on the grounds that I was unable to do the job adequately because I was suffering from stress, depression, burnout etc. (and the administration has known about it since October). But at this point, I'm just not angry enough yet to go down that road, and I wouldn't want that job back anyway.
I've had almost 30 hours now to analyze the situation, and since I promised my family that I would allow myself only 48 hours of self-pity, I'm quickly coming to the realization that DEFECATION EVENTUATES, and that I shouldn't beat myself up just because some of it happened to me. I just got chewed up and spit out like lots of people do. I don't have to like it, but I do have to learn from it and go on from here.
I saw my doctor today too, and got my antidepressant increased as well as a referral to an OB-GYN so I can get something done about my excessive bleeding and pelvic pain (just a couple of the medical problems plaguing me these days). I've had fibroids for years, but when I last saw an OB I was 39 and he didn't want to do a hysterectomy because I was seriously overweight. I'm still seriously overweight, but I'm almost 44 now and my MD says this new doc (a woman) will do the surgery if she thinks I need it, and from what he and I both think, the sooner I can have it done the better. I won't see her until January 10, but what a relief to know that something may finally get done about all this pain and bleeding.
I also appreciate all of the reminders that this is more than likely a blessing in disguise, not only because I'm getting a much-needed rest break, but also because it opens up the door to other opportunities I might not have considered when I was working. That idea about the marketing of nursing-care products---that's one I never would've thought of, and I'm actually intrigued!
I also would love to work as a lobbyist for elderly and LTC issues, but have absolutely no idea how to get started. Luckily I live within 25 miles of the state capital, and I may just look around up there sometime this week to see what I can find out.
So, it's not all gloom and doom. And thanks to all of you, I think I'll be able to cut short my 48-hr. pity party.
Love to all,
Marla:kissLast edit by VivaLasViejas on Dec 11, '02