Fired for Falsifying Documents. What to expect - page 4

Today is extremely difficulty for me. I just started this new job that I absolutely love. I work in a very busy hallway and popped a noon med for one of my residents. I placed it in the med cart and... Read More

  1. by   kp2016
    I'm really sorry this happened to you and for the record I think it was extremely harsh. I know it's probably not what you want to hear right now but being sacked may be a blessing.
    It's unlikely they would report you to a BON, but the fact that they fired you on the spot for a mistake that anyone could make is worrying and makes me wonder how spitefully they would react if there was ever a more serious issue. Sometimes it's hard to understand why bad things happen to us, but it's always worth looking for the Silver Lining. Don't be hard on yourself, they already took care of that.
    Best of luck!
  2. by   Lil Nel
    I agree with yourself and others who have stated that firing you over this medication is indeed harsh.

    From your post, I am thinking that you didn't ask if they plan to report you to the BON. I would have asked them what they planned to do. My guess is that unless this medication was a controlled substance, nothing else will come from your firing.
  3. by   nursebey
    Really Sorry that youre going through as it seems like an honest mistake.Honestly Im surprised they fired you... Its easy to get pulled away from the cart at any moment, especially when most places are so chronically understaffed. I try not to sign off before they actually take it but Id hate to have it "missing" if I got pulled away before I got a chance to sign it out. This is one of those situations that makes me feel like nursing can be impossible at times. Like we are damned if we do damned if we dont. If the pill was recovered the BON might not do anything at all. Honestly most DONs I know wouldnt even report it unless it was a narc missing or theres a pattern or suspect youre diverting. Try no to cry, whats done is done. Focus on what you can do from here going forward. Also dont think if you have one mistake no one will hire you either. Sometimes it can be hard but there are some really good DONs out there that are willing to give someone a chance to prove themselves.My only suggestion would be dont lie about it on any applications in the future and maybe read your handbook. I almost feel like that should have been a write up more so than you getting terminated. Best of luck.
  4. by   Workitinurfava
    You said you reported someone due to a med error and now someone has reported you for a med error. I feel that if this is the case, the DON may be buddies with the person you reported and she was forced to have to write her up, so now you are suffering due to it.
  5. by   LPNewbie
    Quote from Davey Do
    Hey LPNewbie- do us a favor and use the quote button at the bottom of the post to which you're reponding so we know to who you are replying.

    Sound advice:

    Objectively document facts of the situation and the outcomes. Use quotations of conversations to the best of your memory. This process will not only assist you in getting your story straight, keep pertinent facts in your mind, but will act as a catharsis for you.

    I have documented numerous situations in my nursing career and this process has been an extremely useful tool when dealing with situations such as this.

    My process is to write or type out facts randomly: names, dates, situations, what was said, etc, whatever comes to mind. EVERYTHING. Then, I arrange everything in a chronological order so my documentation flows like a story from the start to the finish.

    We are here as your virtual supporters, LPNewbie and wish to see that you get the realistic and fair treatment you deserve!
    Hey thanks for the tip! I know I ought to call HR but I'm afraid if they are going to make everything worse. After all, where was HR when they decided to simply terminate me instead of discipline?
  6. by   hppygr8ful
    Quote from LPNewbie
    Another nurse found my error. In the past I've made a med error but I haven't heard from the BON. I had zero intention to hurt anyone nor gain from this event.
    I very much doubt you will be turned into the BON for this. Take a look at the discipline section of your states BON website to see the kinds of things nurses lose their license over. Chalk this up as a lesson about proper documentation. Also get yourself some malpractice insurance.

    Hppy
  7. by   LPNewbie
    Quote from nursebey
    Really Sorry that youre going through as it seems like an honest mistake.Honestly Im surprised they fired you... Its easy to get pulled away from the cart at any moment, especially when most places are so chronically understaffed. I try not to sign off before they actually take it but Id hate to have it "missing" if I got pulled away before I got a chance to sign it out. This is one of those situations that makes me feel like nursing can be impossible at times. Like we are damned if we do damned if we dont. If the pill was recovered the BON might not do anything at all. Honestly most DONs I know wouldnt even report it unless it was a narc missing or theres a pattern or suspect youre diverting. Try no to cry, whats done is done. Focus on what you can do from here going forward. Also dont think if you have one mistake no one will hire you either. Sometimes it can be hard but there are some really good DONs out there that are willing to give someone a chance to prove themselves.My only suggestion would be dont lie about it on any applications in the future and maybe read your handbook. I almost feel like that should have been a write up more so than you getting terminated. Best of luck.
    My spirit is completely broken. I honestly tried to take the experiences of my last job and apply them to this job. When we had the blizzard and one of the girls randomly quit without notice, I was the one who stayed. No one had asked me to. I chose to. Also I was famous for picking up for others too. I was ready to leave my shift but saw the staff being swamped so I stayed to help. All the good I did for nothing. How quickly did they forget? My best wasn't even good enough.
  8. by   LPNewbie
    Quote from Workitinurfava
    You said you reported someone due to a med error and now someone has reported you for a med error. I feel that if this is the case, the DON may be buddies with the person you reported and she was forced to have to write her up, so now you are suffering due to it.
    That is exactly what I feel like had happened. I wasn't the best nurse but I clearly showed proof of getting better. I almost wish I hadn't said anything.
  9. by   LPNewbie
    Quote from Lil Nel
    I agree with yourself and others who have stated that firing you over this medication is indeed harsh.

    From your post, I am thinking that you didn't ask if they plan to report you to the BON. I would have asked them what they planned to do. My guess is that unless this medication was a controlled substance, nothing else will come from your firing.
    The HWD said that they had reported me to the state. I'm not sure if they reported just a med error or false documentation. I was afraid and didn't want to lose it in front of them.
  10. by   LPNewbie
    Quote from kp2016
    I'm really sorry this happened to you and for the record I think it was extremely harsh. I know it's probably not what you want to hear right now but being sacked may be a blessing.
    It's unlikely they would report you to a BON, but the fact that they fired you on the spot for a mistake that anyone could make is worrying and makes me wonder how spitefully they would react if there was ever a more serious issue. Sometimes it's hard to understand why bad things happen to us, but it's always worth looking for the Silver Lining. Don't be hard on yourself, they already took care of that.
    Best of luck!
    Another sweet nurse said that it may have been a blessing in disguise. I pray that it is.
  11. by   LPNewbie
    Quote from SpankedInPittsburgh
    LPNewbie, All Nurses make mistakes. We aren't perfect. I don't think this is gonna be any sort of hanging offense with the BON & I rarely say nice things about that gaggle of vampires. Anyway, learn from your mistake, have a cry if it will help and move on. That sounds harsh but in my experience its life. Good Luck & Gods Speed.
    Thank you so much. I mean the HWD said she reported it but she didn't say false documentation or med error. That's why I became afraid. I will certainly learn from this. I wish I had all you guys over for dinner haha I've been crying all day and wish I had some company.
  12. by   Davey Do
    Quote from LPNewbie
    Hey thanks for the tip! I know I ought to call HR but I'm afraid if they are going to make everything worse. After all, where was HR when they decided to simply terminate me instead of discipline?
    Your supervisor and HR are the first line of offense, so to speak. Their decision is not final. I have been terminated and received unemployment benefits a couple of times, for example. I know of others who went through different channels, including hiring a lawyer or going all the way to the top brass, in order to get their jobs back.

    Dealing with this situation is a process and the first step is returning to face those who terminated you. Consider applying for unemployment benefits, also.

    Unlike many posters, you are sticking with us and communicating which is a must, because as I said before, this is a process.

    You can compare notes with those of us who have been through this sort of thing before and get some ideas on how to deal with your situation.
  13. by   LPNewbie
    Quote from Davey Do
    Your supervisor and HR are the first line of offense, so to speak. Their decision is not final. I have been terminated and received unemployment benefits a couple of times, for example. I know of others who went through different channels, including hiring a lawyer or going all the way to the top brass, in order to get their jobs back.

    Dealing with this situation is a process and the first step is returning to face those who terminated you. Consider applying for unemployment benefits, also.

    Unlike many posters, you are sticking with us and communicating which is a must, because as I said before, this is a process.

    You can compare notes with those of us who have been through this sort of thing before and get some ideas on how to deal with your situation.
    I think after the way this entire thing went down, going back would only open me up to something even worse. I've been confiding in God at this point. There has to be something for me. I just have to find something. I'm so worried about state. I can't get it out of my head.

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